Essential Japanese Wrestling Discussion/News

[Jmare007]

How did you do Lucha and Joshi wise? Post the list! Or is it top secret

I never got around to watching nearly enough stuff, I couldn't do it

Ended up ranking 4 Lucha guys I felt I had seen enough to have real opinion on (in total I saw multiple matches from 10-15 guys but most were multi man tags), they did waaay better than I expected considering how much I struggled with that distractingly bad commentary. I think I ended up giving them more credit because of being able to hold my attention despite so many things going against them (I'm not that fond of lucha as a style either) and in the case of one, he was just too fukking good.

Joshi was never a realistic goal for this project. WOS took prescedence and I couldn't even finish that I could've ranked Toyota and Hokuto because I still remember some of the matches I saw from them like a decade ago, but I want to do a more fair assesment of their work, not just nostalgia. I hope I'll be more prepared in 5 more years when this project gets done again.

I'll post the list when I get home, don't have it here at work, it's nothing to write home about to be honest. It's a pretty safe list all things considered.

But man, if y'all spot an obvious name I missed I'ma be pissed

 

[Jmare007]

I tried watching for like a week but it is just SO MUCH WRESTLING. Props to you for getting as far as you did

I gotta be honest, if it weren't for WWE being so fukking garbage and New Japan being so frustrating in the last 2 years, there was NO WAY I would've been able to send a ballot. Watching great wrestling was a good way to cope with so much shytty product.

 

[The Rainmaker]

He has applied that to BUSHI, of all people, and twice. He shouldn't be taking that shyt. No one should.

 

[3Rivers]

He has applied that to BUSHI, of all people, and twice. He shouldn't be taking that shyt. No one should.

Hopefully he doesn't botch. Could be lights out

 

[Jmare007]

My top 100 Greatest Wrestlers Ever, in ring ability being the nª1 - though not the only - criteria

Spoiler

1.- Mitsuharu Misawa

2.- Terry Funk

3.- Ric Flair

4.- Toshiaki Kawada

5.- Jumbo Tsuruta

6.- Jerry Lawler

7.- Stan Hansen

8.- Genichiro Tenryu

9.- Shinya Hashimoto

10.- Jushin “Thunder”Liger

11.- Negro Casas

12.- Kenta Kobashi

13.- Nick Bockwinkel

14.- Randy Savage

15.- Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan

16.- Jun Akiyama

17.- Rey Mysterio

18.- Tatsumi Fujinami

19.- Yoshiaki Fujiwara

20.- Akira Taue

21.- Chris Benoit

22.- Riki Choshu

23.- Eddie Guerrero

24.- Satánico

25.- Vader

26.- Ricky Steamboat

27.- Volk Han

28.- Buddy Rose

29.- Bret Hart

30.- El Dandy

31.- Yuki Ishikawa

32.- El Hijo del Santo

33.- Steve Austin

34.- The Great Sasuke

35.- Billy Robinson

36.- William Regal

37.- Barry Windham

38.- Kiyoshi Tamura

39.- Kerry Von Erich

40.- Shinjiro Ohtani

41.- Sgt. Slaughter

42.- Chris Jericho

43.- dikk Murdoch

44.- Yoshihiro Takayama

45.- Daisuke Ikeda

46.- Daisuke Sekimoto

47.- John Cena

48.- Andre The Giant

49.- Fit Finlay

50.- Hiroshi Tanahashi

51.- Ted DiBiase

52.- Shawn Michaels

53.- Curt Hennig

54.- Keiji Mutoh

55.- Arn Anderson

56.- Giant Baba

57.- Terry Gordy

58.- Harley Race

59.- Bob Backlund

60.- Mick Foley

61.- Masato Tanaka

62.- AJ Styles

63.- Steve Williams

64.- dikk Bayer The Destroyer

65.- Bobby Eaton

66.- Jack Brisco

67.- KENTA

68.- dikk Togo

69.- Bill Dundee

70.- Tully Blanchard

71.- Kensuke Sazaki

72.- Ricky Morton

73.- Kurt Angle

74.- CM Punk

75.- Owen Hart

76.- Kazuo Yamazaki

77.- Masanobu Fuchi

78.- Jim Duggan

79.- Michael Hayes

80.- Samoa Joe

81.- Jake Roberts

82.- Ruck Martel

83.- Nigel McGuiness

84.- Dutch Mantell

85.- Antonio Inoki

86.- Shinsuke Nakamura

87.- Rick Rude

88.- El Generico Sami Zayn

89.- Yugi Nagata

90.- Cesaro

91.- Yoshiaki Yatsu

92.- Triple H

93.- Jerry Blackwell

94.- Chris Hero

95.- Austin Aries

96.- Low Ki

97.- The Rock

98.- Carlos Colon

99.- Roderick Strong

100.- Dynamite Kid

Biggest regret: Verne Gagne. I think he could've rated high if I had more footage and time.

 

[The Rainmaker]

Yoshi Tatsu will make his in-ring return at Invasion Attack.

That's right... STAY AWAY FROM THE COMMENTARY BOOTH

 

[3Rivers]

Invasion Attack card

New Japan Pro Wrestling “INVASION ATTACK 2016”, 4/10/2016 [Sun] 16:00 @ Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo
(1) Ryusuke Taguchi & Juice Robinson vs. Bad Luck Fale & Yujiro Takahashi

(2) Satoshi Kojima, Yuji Nagata & Jushin Thunder Liger vs. Toru Yano, Kazushi Sakuraba & YOSHI-HASHI

(3) Tomohiro Ishii & Hirooki Goto vs. EVIL & BUSHI

(4) IWGP Junior Tag Championship Match: [45th Champions] Ricochet & Matt Sydal vs. [Challengers] Rocky Romero & Barreta
~ 1st title defense.

(5) IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship Match: [73rd Champion] KUSHIDA vs. [Challenger] Will Ospreay
~ 3rd title defense.

(6) NEVER Openweight 6 Man Tag Championship Match: [4th Champions] Kenny Omega, Matt & Nick Jackson vs. [Challengers] Hiroshi Tanahashi, Michael Elgin & Yoshytatsu
~ 3rd title defense.

(7) NEVER Openweight Championship Match: [10th Champion] Katsuyori Shibata vs. [Challenger] Hiroyoshi Tenzan
~ 3rd title defense.

(8) IWGP Tag Championship Match: [69th Champions] Togi Makabe & Tomoaki Honma vs. [Challengers] “GUERRILLAS OF DESTINY” Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa
~ 2nd title defense.

(9) IWGP Heavyweight Championship Match: [63rd Champion] Kazuchika Okada vs. [Challenger] Tetsuya Naito
~ 4th title defense.

 

[Jmare007]

Such a fukking waste. Motherfukking TENZAN?!

 

[Honga Ciganesta]

My top 100 Greatest Wrestlers Ever, in ring ability being the nª1 - though not the only - criteria

Spoiler

1.- Mitsuharu Misawa

2.- Terry Funk

3.- Ric Flair

4.- Toshiaki Kawada

5.- Jumbo Tsuruta

6.- Jerry Lawler

7.- Stan Hansen

8.- Genichiro Tenryu

9.- Shinya Hashimoto

10.- Jushin “Thunder”Liger

11.- Negro Casas

12.- Kenta Kobashi

13.- Nick Bockwinkel

14.- Randy Savage

15.- Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan

16.- Jun Akiyama

17.- Rey Mysterio

18.- Tatsumi Fujinami

19.- Yoshiaki Fujiwara

20.- Akira Taue

21.- Chris Benoit

22.- Riki Choshu

23.- Eddie Guerrero

24.- Satánico

25.- Vader

26.- Ricky Steamboat

27.- Volk Han

28.- Buddy Rose

29.- Bret Hart

30.- El Dandy

31.- Yuki Ishikawa

32.- El Hijo del Santo

33.- Steve Austin

34.- The Great Sasuke

35.- Billy Robinson

36.- William Regal

37.- Barry Windham

38.- Kiyoshi Tamura

39.- Kerry Von Erich

40.- Shinjiro Ohtani

41.- Sgt. Slaughter

42.- Chris Jericho

43.- dikk Murdoch

44.- Yoshihiro Takayama

45.- Daisuke Ikeda

46.- Daisuke Sekimoto

47.- John Cena

48.- Andre The Giant

49.- Fit Finlay

50.- Hiroshi Tanahashi

51.- Ted DiBiase

52.- Shawn Michaels

53.- Curt Hennig

54.- Keiji Mutoh

55.- Arn Anderson

56.- Giant Baba

57.- Terry Gordy

58.- Harley Race

59.- Bob Backlund

60.- Mick Foley

61.- Masato Tanaka

62.- AJ Styles

63.- Steve Williams

64.- dikk Bayer The Destroyer

65.- Bobby Eaton

66.- Jack Brisco

67.- KENTA

68.- dikk Togo

69.- Bill Dundee

70.- Tully Blanchard

71.- Kensuke Sazaki

72.- Ricky Morton

73.- Kurt Angle

74.- CM Punk

75.- Owen Hart

76.- Kazuo Yamazaki

77.- Masanobu Fuchi

78.- Jim Duggan

79.- Michael Hayes

80.- Samoa Joe

81.- Jake Roberts

82.- Ruck Martel

83.- Nigel McGuiness

84.- Dutch Mantell

85.- Antonio Inoki

86.- Shinsuke Nakamura

87.- Rick Rude

88.- El Generico Sami Zayn

89.- Yugi Nagata

90.- Cesaro

91.- Yoshiaki Yatsu

92.- Triple H

93.- Jerry Blackwell

94.- Chris Hero

95.- Austin Aries

96.- Low Ki

97.- The Rock

98.- Carlos Colon

99.- Roderick Strong

100.- Dynamite Kid

Biggest regret: Verne Gagne. I think he could've rated high if I had more footage and time.

Knew he'd be number one

Can't argue with anything except I'd have some joshi in there, who would I drop though... see this is messing with my head already

I'd have Necro in too. Replacing HHH Good job, post the results when they come in

 

[SirReginald]

Invasion Attack card

One day Naito will win that belt

 

[Jmare007]

So this is from DDT's Sumo Hall show from yesterday:

6. Kota Ibushi Return & Kota Ibushi Pro-Wrestling Institute Belonging First Match ~ East and West toward the front Anywhere Fall Weapon Treasure Hunt Tag Match: Kota Ibushi & Gota Ihashi besiegen Sanshiro Takagi & Jun Kasai und KENSO & Michael Nakazawa (23:12) nach einem Phoenix Splash von Ibushi gegen Nakazawa.

One day Naito will win that belt

He should win it when he has a title shot in Osaka...

 

[Silkk]

Such a fukking waste. Motherfukking TENZAN?!

Watching Nitro from 98 and this dude comes out

 

[HollywoodP]

just got finished watching ROH X NJPW Honor Rising day 2. How come ya'll didnt tell me the 2 trillest nikkas linked up

Jay Lethal in Los Ingobernables

 

[stro]

Jay Lethal sucks, though. Brings down the whole group immediately. And that's without even considering the dogshyt Truth Martini. Naito pls.

 

[TBdaGhost]

Jay Lethal sucks, though. Brings down the whole group immediately. And that's without even considering the dogshyt Truth Martini. Naito pls.

Lethal sucks?