Jalen Rose's Top 10 NBA players of ALL TIME yall notice who missing

[William F. Russell]

Wilt Chamberlain is a top 3 player all-time.
And any list putting him lower is utter bullshyt.

Magic wasn't better than Wilt.
Bird wasn't better than Wilt.
Kobe wasn't better than Wilt.

Just stop it.

Kareem, Jordan, and Russell are all better than Wilt. He's not top 3.

 

[bl2k8]

Those 2 DO NOT belong. Put Kobe and Hakeem/Oscar back on that list.

Moses Malone is definitely top 20. Possibly top 15.

LeBron, at this point of his career, IS NOT top 10 and probably doesn't make top 15. And, quite frankly, despite his stats, accomplishments, and accolades, he'll probably never make top 10 mainly because of the way he became a champion (teaming up w/2 all-stars/olympians/future HOFers). And he's notorious for choking in big games (see ECF vs. Pistons; see either of the NBA Finals vs. Spurs). D-Wade has a stronger claim for top 10/15 than he does. LeBron will possibly be top 20 when it's all said and done, though.

Bron became top 10 when he won that second ring and fmvp. Hakeem gets knocked off

 

[William F. Russell]

LeBron's stats are phenomenal, granted.

Whether he deserved half of his 4 MVP awards is very debatable. At best, he deserved 2 of them.

LeBron is a choker. Fact. He's made some very questionable plays/decisions in the home stretch of crucial ECF and NBA Finals games. One could make a very strong argument that he doesn't win his first ring without D-Wade and that he doesn't win his second ring without Ray Allen. And the way he gave up in last year's Finals leaves a stain on his legacy. Crampgate aside (which was a force on his part), he clearly gave up on the team after a couple games in the series.

Also, D-Wade probably has a stronger claim for top 10/15 because of his individually phenomenal finals performance in 2006 with a much worse team than LeBron had when he won his rings. Moreover, in his peak (around 2006-2009), he was putting up BETTER individual numbers than LeBron during the regular season. Wade definitely should've won MVP for 2008-09 when he basically took a college-level Miami Heat to the NBA playoffs. Wade is definitely a top 4 SG all time.

 

[William F. Russell]

Bron became top 10 when he won that second ring and fmvp. Hakeem gets knocked off

Jordan > LeBron
Russell > LeBron
Kareem > LeBron
Magic > LeBron
Bird >LeBron
Duncan > LeBron
Shaq > LeBron
Kobe > LeBron
Wilt > LeBron
Big O > LeBron
Hakeem > LeBron

 

[bl2k8]

Jordan > LeBron
Russell > LeBron
Kareem > LeBron
Magic > LeBron
Bird >LeBron
Duncan > LeBron
Shaq > LeBron
Kobe > LeBron
Wilt > LeBron
Big O > LeBron
Hakeem > LeBron

Lebron career resume is better then Hakeem breh

 

[William F. Russell]

Lebron career resume is better then Hakeem breh

Even if I were to grant you Hakeem, he still ain't top 10, seeing as I named 11 players

 

[Rice N Beans]

Totally wrong. THIS is the correct list.

1. Shawn Bradley
2. Pervis Eillison
3. Jeremy Lin
4. Brandon Jennings
5. Hasheem Thabeet
6. Marquis Teague
7. Michael Olowokandi
8. Greg Oden
9. Bobby Hurley
10. Kwame Brown

 

[William F. Russell]

Totally wrong. THIS is the correct list.

1. Shawn Bradley
2. Pervis Eillison
3. Jeremy Lin
4. Brandon Jennings
5. Hasheem Thabeet
6. Marquis Teague
7. Michael Olowokandi
8. Greg Oden
9. Bobby Hurley
10. Kwame Brown

Nah, breh. Travis Knight is top 3.

 

[Ben.]

LeBron's stats are phenomenal, granted.

Whether he deserved half of his 4 MVP awards is very debatable. At best, he deserved 2 of them.

LeBron is a choker. Fact. He's made some very questionable plays/decisions in the home stretch of crucial ECF and NBA Finals games. One could make a very strong argument that he doesn't win his first ring without D-Wade and that he doesn't win his second ring without Ray Allen. And the way he gave up in last year's Finals leaves a stain on his legacy. Crampgate aside (which was a force on his part), he clearly gave up on the team after a couple games in the series.

Also, D-Wade probably has a stronger claim for top 10/15 because of his individually phenomenal finals performance in 2006 with a much worse team than LeBron had when he won his rings. Moreover, in his peak (around 2006-2009), he was putting up BETTER individual numbers than LeBron during the regular season. Wade definitely should've won MVP for 2008-09 when he basically took a college-level Miami Heat to the NBA playoffs. Wade is definitely a top 4 SG all time.

LeBron is a top 15 player right now and going to end up top 5/10 all time no matter how you look at it and significantly better than DWade All-Time, don't even need to argue this shyt. Rather waste my time doing something else.

 

[William F. Russell]

LeBron is a top 15 player right now and going to end up top 5/10 all time no matter how you look at it and significantly better than DWade All-Time, don't even need to argue this shyt. Rather waste my time doing something else.

Another stan bites the dust...

 

[Jplaya2023]

Kareem, on the other hand, already won 4 or 5 rings BEFORE Magic joined the Lakers. He also had a Finals MVP and some MVP trophies.

So no one is going to call out this lying ass nikka about this?

 

[William F. Russell]

So no one is going to call out this lying ass nikka about this?

You're right.

But my point that Kareem didn't rely on Magic for his success still stands. Before Magic came into the picture, Kareem already won a ring, a finals MVP, 5 MVP awards, and most of his NBA All-Defensive team honors. And even after Magic joined, he won another finals MVP and another MVP award.

Kareem > Magic.

 

[Jplaya2023]

You're right.

But my point that Kareem didn't rely on Magic for his success still stands. Before Magic came into the picture, Kareem already won a ring, a finals MVP, 5 MVP awards, and most of his NBA All-Defensive team honors. And even after Magic joined, he won another finals MVP and another MVP award.

Kareem > Magic.

Magic extended kareems career by 5 years. Stop the bullshyt breh. Cap was 32 when magic joined the team he was getting long in thr tooth but still top 5

 

[notPsychosiz]

Oscar Robertson never gets proper respect on these lists...

Oscar Rodneydangerfield

 

[William F. Russell]

Magic extended kareems career by 5 years. Stop the bullshyt breh. Cap was 32 when magic joined the team he was getting long in thr tooth but still top 5

Kareem was already a HOF and top 10 player in his own right BEFORE Magic.

Before Magic arrived, he already had: 1 ring, 1 Finals MVP, and 5 MVP awards and was: a 2x scoring champion, a 4x blocks leader, 8 All-NBA Teams (6 All-NBA First Teams) member, 8 NBA All-Defensive Teams (3 All-NBA Defensive First Teams) member, and a rebounding champion. He also made numerous All Star teams.

After Magic joined, he had another Finals MVP and another MVP and was a member of 7 more All-NBA Teams (4 All-NBA First Teams), 4 more NBA-All Defensive Teams (3 NBA All-Defensive First Teams), and was a 2x blocks leader. He still made numerous All Star teams.

Yes, Magic definitely helped Kareem but DON"T act like Kareem wasn't already a HOFer and a top 10 all time talent before Magic. And DON'T act like Kareem wasn't a force anymore once Magic joined the Lakers.

It's very disingenuous to say Kareem isn't top 3 of all time.