Jalen Rose's Top 10 NBA players of ALL TIME yall notice who missing

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Swagnificent said:
prime kobe was literally a smige below prime jordan. unless you think very little of jordan i have no idea how prime kobe can't be as high as anyone not named shaq.

i never got the kobe's prime wasn't that good crowd. he spent part of it sacrificing big numbers alongside shaq to win and part of it sacrificing wins cause the Lakers had to rebuild.

Kobe's career path was just really unusual. He started his career on loaded teams, became part of a lottery roster in his prime, and then finally rebuild that into a contender past his prime.

if he had gone thru the natural progression young guys do when they hit the league by being on a bad team rather than a title contender, he woulda put up crazy stats while losing alot between ages 18-24. then when he hit 25, rather be rebuilding (like he did with the 2004 Lakers) he would've been in his prime on a good team as the man and winning mvps and titles. instead kobe's career has played in reverse and he had to sacrifice individually for Shaq to win rings.
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Top Ten No Particular order

Bill Russell 5 time MVP 11 championships as a player
Wilt Chamberlain 4 time MVP 2 championships
Kareem Abdul-Jaber 6 time MVP 6 championships
Moses Malone 3 time MVP 1 championship
Larry Bird 3 time MVP 3 championships
Magic Johnson 3 time MVP
Michael Jordan 5 time MVP 6 championships
Tim Duncan 2 time MVP 5 championship
Shaq O'neal should've been 3 time MVP got robbed by Nash twice 4 championships
Lebron James 4 time MVP 2 championships
 
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Master Teacher said:
Top Ten No Particular order

Bill Russell 5 time MVP 11 championships as a player
Wilt Chamberlain 4 time MVP 2 championships
Kareem Abdul-Jaber 6 time MVP 6 championships
Moses Malone 3 time MVP 1 championship
Larry Bird 3 time MVP 3 championships
Magic Johnson 3 time MVP
Michael Jordan 5 time MVP 6 championships
Tim Duncan 2 time MVP 5 championship
Shaq O'neal should've been 3 time MVP got robbed by Nash twice 4 championships
Lebron James 4 time MVP 2 championships
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Those 2 DO NOT belong. Put Kobe and Hakeem/Oscar back on that list.

Moses Malone is definitely top 20. Possibly top 15.

LeBron, at this point of his career, IS NOT top 10 and probably doesn't make top 15. And, quite frankly, despite his stats, accomplishments, and accolades, he'll probably never make top 10 mainly because of the way he became a champion (teaming up w/2 all-stars/olympians/future HOFers). And he's notorious for choking in big games (see ECF vs. Pistons; see either of the NBA Finals vs. Spurs). D-Wade has a stronger claim for top 10/15 than he does. LeBron will possibly be top 20 when it's all said and done, though.
 
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Those 2 DO NOT belong. Put Kobe and Wilt back on that list.

Moses Malone is definitely top 20. Possibly top 15.

LeBron, at this point of his career, IS NOT top 10 and probably doesn't make top 15. And, quite frankly, despite his stats, accomplishments, and accolades, he'll probably never make top 10 mainly because of the way he became a champion (teaming up w/2 all-stars/olympians/future HOFers). And he's notorious for choking (see ECF vs. Pistons; see NBA Finals vs. Spurs). D-Wade has a stronger claim for top 10/15 than him. LeBron will possibly be top 20 when it's all said and done, though.
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You buggin

Moses Malone went straight from High School into the league and was the truth, you don't know shyt about basketball

lebron James had been head and shoulders the best player in the league or consecutive years it's not DEBATALE

even when kobe was the best player in the league which was really only one year, he as heading and shoulders above his peers ain't any periord of time in his career

D wade, nikka is serious, D Wade was never better than Lebron at any point of time

teaming up with Hall of Famers, what are you even talking about

every body in the top ten played with hall of famers

we talking about as individuals who are the best players not legacy
 
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You buggin

Moses Malone went straight from High School into the league and was the truth, you don't know shyt about basketball
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Going HS to pro and being the "truth" (3 MVPs and 1 ring) doesn't make you top 10. Everybody else on Jalen's top 10/11 had a better career than Moses. Despite his MVPs, Moses never dominated the league at his peak like all of the players in the OP top 10 did.

I like and respect Moses (he's in my top 15) but he ain't top 10.


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lebron James had been head and shoulders the best player in the league or consecutive years it's not DEBATALE

even when kobe was the best player in the league which was really only one year, he as heading and shoulders above his peers ain't any periord of time in his career

D wade, nikka is serious, D Wade was never better than Lebron at any point of time

teaming up with Hall of Famers, what are you even talking about

every body in the top ten played with hall of famers

we talking about as individuals who are the best players not legacy
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1. Actually, it's very debatable. Kevin Durant, Kobe, and even D-Wade (pre-The Decision) rivalled LeBron for best in the league. LeBron isn't the clear-cut best player in the league and never was. There was always a debate.

2. Everybody in the top 10 played with HOFers by chance. But most of them stayed with one team throughout most of their careers. Moreover, each of them established themselves as the focal point of their teams. LeBron shied away from being the focal point of HIS team (Cleveland) and leading the team to the championship. He got so desperate for a ring in his prime that he joined forces with D Wade (arguably a better player at the same; definitely just as good) in Miami (and lured Chris Bosh there also). Had he not joined the Heat then, Bron would've likely NEVER got a ring. Charles Barkley and Jordan both said that, in their primes, they would've NEVER tried forming a super team with their rivals. LeBron got 2 rings taking the easy way out when he was IN HIS PRIME...and he still was disappointing, seeing as he only got 2 rings out of 4 finals appearances (according to the "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4.." hype). Furthermore, LeBron jumped ship again (from the Heat to the Cavs) when he felt that he couldn't win with the Heat any longer (even with Wade and Bosh). Dude has no competitive spirit and has to jump onto teams with 2 other all-stars just to be a contender. LeBron's career is still fantastic but he's not displacing anybody out of the top 10 because the way he won his rings was contrived and because he got those rings when he was bailed out by D-Wade and then Ray Allen.

Stop buying into the media's LeBron hype.

3. You're a fool if you believe that an individual's legacy doesn't factor into this conversation. Legacy is what separates players in the top 5 from those in the top 10. Hell, it separates those in the top 3 from the remaining top 5.
 
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SuperCoolP_Cal said:
Those 2 DO NOT belong. Put Kobe and Hakeem/Oscar back on that list.

Moses Malone is definitely top 20. Possibly top 15.

LeBron, at this point of his career, IS NOT top 10 and probably doesn't make top 15. And, quite frankly, despite his stats, accomplishments, and accolades, he'll probably never make top 10 mainly because of the way he became a champion (teaming up w/2 all-stars/olympians/future HOFers). And he's notorious for choking in big games (see ECF vs. Pistons; see either of the NBA Finals vs. Spurs). D-Wade has a stronger claim for top 10/15 than he does. LeBron will possibly be top 20 when it's all said and done, though.
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Wilt Chamberlain is a top 3 player all-time.
And any list putting him lower is utter bullshyt.

Magic wasn't better than Wilt.
Bird wasn't better than Wilt.
Kobe wasn't better than Wilt.

Just stop it.
 
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