Jalen Rose's charter school is a flop its 1st year

[wire28]

exactly neither of us said this nor aligned to this view. I’m done, like @arXiv said, y’all just wanna have broad strokes conversations based or partisan talking points and not nuanced conversation based on reality.

I wonder how many people in here actually have kids or nieces and nephews they are close to. These conversations hit different when your kid is actively in school.

 

[eastside313]

I wonder how many people in here actually have kids or nieces and nephews they are close to. These conversations hit different when your kid is actively in school.

I was just about to ask this question. Who actually had attended a charter school or their children. Or even stepped a foot in a charter school. But it’s the internet. People will read a article and think they can tell you more than your actual real life experiences.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I wonder how many people in here actually have kids or nieces and nephews they are close to. These conversations hit different when your kid is actively in school.

That or how many came up in shytty school districts. Brehs wanna talk big but seem to have no connection to the people and circumstances they’re speaking on. I came thru ousd and know the decisions my parents had to make and games they had to play to get me out of my assigned schools

 

[nyknick]

Charter schools are public schools so saying they take money away from public schools is an oxymoron. By virtue of the fact that they are public they are not for profit. They are literally incorporated as nonprofit entities. These are basic facts that people still get wrong despite charters being around for 20 years.

But I realize that is not your point. Saying that money is taking away is repeating a line used by anticharter advocates. What is less biased is to say that when parents decide to send their children to nontraditional public schools, the money for those students follows them to their new school. Why should the money stay at the school where the student left? The dollars are for the students and thus when they attend a different school the state gives the money to that school.

Problem is that there is a barrier to entry, even in a perfect charter school, parents still have to take the initiative to research the school and then sign up their child. It further segregates the students and in this case the population that's the most at risk of failure.

I posted the John Oliver video to highlight how charter schools get around being non-profits. Most of these are not funded by millionaire celebrities and philanthropic funds. I highly doubt lobbyists backing Republicans are opening charter schools out of goodness of their hearts.

I'll take your word about 6 years being the ceiling for teacher improvement but just from my anecdotal experience I had friends writing curriculum two years into their careers and one becoming vice-principal 3 years into her teaching career at a charter.

 

[get these nets]

Problem is that there is a barrier to entry, even in a perfect charter school, parents still have to take the initiative to research the school and then sign up their child. It further segregates the students and in this case the population that's the most at risk of failure.

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The word segregation is used rather loosely here.

Another way to look at it is that engaged resourceful parents seek out the available resources that can help their children to succeed.
More than likely, they are among the segment of parents in poor areas who provide the encouragement and support for their children to perform academically.
All the children in the community have the ability to perform, but that household culture of encouragement and expectation is often the difference in the outcomes.

Segregation? Really?

 

[88m3]

The word segregation is used rather loosely here.

Another way to look at it is that engaged resourceful parents seek out the available resources that can help their children to succeed.
More than likely, they are among the segment of parents in poor areas who provide the encouragement and support for their children to perform academically.
All the children in the community have the ability to perform, but that household culture of encouragement and expectation is often the difference in the outcomes.

Segregation? Really?

It's another barrier when you could put the resources toward the school they would normally attend.


It's clearly unjust lol