Jalen Green is the clear cut #1 overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft

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Kids not going to footlocker for the Cade 1's

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"Y'all got them Cade's in white" - said nobody

meanwhile kids gonna be lining for the JG's :gladbron:
Pistons fans will buy the Doumbouya 4’s for all I care if they win a lot. Take the better player, not the more marketable one if that’s what it comes down to.
 
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I'll keep hammering this point home. They've done exactly what you've suggested they do and it hasn't worked and it'll be less effective now that these contending teams all have length everywhere. Their entire bench consisted of mainly randoms off the street pretty much.
Except they haven't done what I've suggested they should do. They did the exact opposite. They wasted a #2 pick on the wrong fit, for the type of impact they could've got from Dwight Howard.
That was 5 years ago. A lot has changed since then. The pendulum has swung back to having bigs with length. You can get away with it with KD since he's a 7 footer himself practically and has crazy length (pause). Now there's teams out here tryna stockpile length where they can find it (and Golden State has three of them. They understand where the league is. They just hope they can either figure it out quick or develop it enough to attract other teams in trades-- the latter has yet to happen.) The AD's and Greek Freak's are gonna be able to counteract a small ball lineup. Add in the Holmgren's and Wembanyama's coming soon and if your only line of defense is Draymond, that's a risk teams are willing to take now.
See, this is the problem:

You're mistaking interchangeable length in this positionless climate for someone like Wiseman, who doesn't fit the criteria. He's a traditional big, who not only can't defend out on the perimeter because he lacks the lateral quickness, but he doesn't have the BBIQ to be an effective defender, in general. Length has never gone out of fashion; bigs who can't defend have - which is what Wiseman is.



The Warriors had one of the best defenses in the league last season when Draymond was at the 5, to go along with one of the highest net ratings. They were actually a considerably more effective team without Wiseman, despite whatever emphasis you want to put on this length that you think he provided. He's quite literally been the only main rotational player since 2015 that's played alongside Steph, who's had a negative net-rating with him. Think about all the players and different types of personnel that have played with Steph over the last 5-6 years, and none of them have fallen into the red with Steph, until Wiseman came along.

That's how much of a negative he was last season.
Even if you wanna say he was a good fit, he doesn't win them a ring last year and the only way they can address the problem that will cost them during this core's last stretch is by dealing him. How willing would they be to do that? Not at all. They'd be fun as hell to watch, but do they wanna have fun or do they wanna win? It's more likely that fans would just debate who has to go between Ball or Curry and that doesn't help a team either. Like I said, the ready to win bigs they need aren't available now and until that changes, we have this.
Nobody expected the Warriors to win a title last season because they weren't in any position to do so with Klay out. If your justification for drafting Wiseman over LaMelo is because they wouldn't have a won a title last season, well, you're being even more disingenuous than I initially thought. Last season was supposed to be a building process towards when Klay came back for the following season, and that was supposed to be dummy run for Wiseman to get up to speed and for the team to develop some resemblance of winning play, which ended up in them going backwards when he was on the floor. It was only when he got injured that the team actually starting winning and looked like the Warriors they we've come to know.

You can only put yourself in the best possible position of winning with the cards you're dealt, and that would've been LaMelo over Wiseman, regardless, if they were ever going to win a title again or not. At the end of the day, only one team wins it all every season. You're operating on broken logic if you believe this idealization of winning a title carries any weight in reality. Simply selecting Wiseman because of this false perception he fills this need of length, when really he has dinosaur value in today's league, ain't it.
 
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If Wiseman was Anthony Davis, whose length actually translates to defending all over the floor, you'd have a point, tre, but it doesn't. He can't even shoot. So what the fukk does his length on paper actually bring to the Warriors?

Nothing.
 

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If Wiseman was Anthony Davis, whose length actually translates to defending all over the floor, you'd have a point, tre, but it doesn't. He can't even shoot. So what the fukk does his length on paper actually bring to the Warriors?

Nothing.
The pink bytch hating on another dark colored nikka to prop up the talented mixed/white player. You fukkin pink ass right wing Trump loving trailer park basement dwelling fakkit.
 

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If Wiseman was Anthony Davis, whose length actually translates to defending all over the floor, you'd have a point, tre, but it doesn't. He can't even shoot. So what the fukk does his length on paper actually bring to the Warriors?

Nothing.
I'm not gonna keep going back and forth about Wiseman in a Cunningham vs. Green thread, but as I've said to Warriors fans, don't write him off so soon. Bigs take time. That's the reality. There's precedence for someone to make a leap as a big man. If they can't wait, that's fine, but right now they have three talented prospects and can't convert that into a big man they need. Willie Cauley-Stein is not saving them. Professor Big Shot ain't saving them. Random big isn't saving them. Clearly the Warriors think more highly of what Wiseman can do than you do, and you gotta leave it at that cuz Myles Turner isn't walking through that door.
 

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If Wiseman was Anthony Davis, whose length actually translates to defending all over the floor, you'd have a point, tre, but it doesn't. He can't even shoot. So what the fukk does his length on paper actually bring to the Warriors?

Nothing.
Wiseman that bad?
 
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I'm not gonna keep going back and forth about Wiseman in a Cunningham vs. Green thread, but as I've said to Warriors fans, don't write him off so soon. Bigs take time. That's the reality. There's precedence for someone to make a leap as a big man. If they can't wait, that's fine, but right now they have three talented prospects and can't convert that into a big man they need. Willie Cauley-Stein is not saving them. Professor Big Shot ain't saving them. Random big isn't saving them. Clearly the Warriors think more highly of what Wiseman can do than you do, and you gotta leave it at that cuz Myles Turner isn't walking through that door.
I certainly don't doubt they thought more highly of Wiseman before the draft, but now, if they had their time again, I highly doubt they would've drafted him. That should tell you all you need to know.

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Fukk that im rooting for cade now, Green getting all the hype, everyone rooting for him
 
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