Jalen Green is the clear cut #1 overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft

[Barney Rubble]

Why not always draft the potential superstar? The NBA is a business and Green is marketable with a massive upside. If he didn't pan out no one would really blame Detroit, but if he becomes the next Kobe we'll all look back at detroit like

 

[High quality poster]

I’m almost willing to bet Jalen scores no less than 30 against the Pistons. He has that game circled, highlighted, stamped, and emphasized. I think he’s gonna try to embarrass the Pistons. Cade’s gonna have to come out with that same mentality

If Jalen Green doesn’t score 30 you banned until regular season?

You lucky you a fellow Kobe breh or I would seriously take you up on this offer

 

[SCJoe]

I'm not giving up after one summer league game no matter how much I wanted the Pistons to take Green. I've been following dude since I was still in Fresno and dude was killing it at Memorial. I feel like Cade is only going to go as far as his teammates so it's not possible to get a real idea of how good he is until he playing with Stewart, Grant and Hami. I'm still salty though.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Why not always draft the potential superstar? The NBA is a business and Green is marketable with a massive upside. If he didn't pan out no one would really blame Detroit, but if he becomes the next Kobe we'll all look back at detroit like

because they view Cade as that too, just with a higher floor. This was a draft where 4-5 guys are viewed as potential superstars.

You're also looking at it the wrong way. Cade was the consensus #1 pick. He's the guy who takes the pressure off Detroit if he doesn't pan out since most people woulda took Cade.

Green is a better fit, but y'all die on that BPA hill.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

because they view Cade as that too, just with a higher floor. This was a draft where 4-5 guys are viewed as potential superstars.

You're also looking at it the wrong way. Cade was the consensus #1 pick. He's the guy who takes the pressure off Detroit if he doesn't pan out since most people woulda took Cade.

Green is a better fit, but y'all die on that BPA hill.

Just like you died on that Wiseman hill, despite there being better fits in the draft?

 

[who_better_than_me]

Who do y'all compare Cades game to as far as strengths, similar style, visual similarities, ect?

I would’ve said Portland Batum but his defense isn’t nearly as good as Batums

 

[The D-List Vet]

I would’ve said Portland Batum but his defense isn’t nearly as good as Batums

Swag said he could end up like ORL Mike Miller.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Just like you died on that Wiseman hill, despite there being better fits in the draft?

He WAS the fit pick though.

If you think adding a bench player is a better fit, then

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He WAS the fit pick though.

A traditional big man, who can't play like a traditional big man because he's been taught to play on the perimeter his entire life, and who can't shoot. Is that really a fit alongside Draymond, who also can't shoot, is reluctant to even shoot, and plays his best ball at the 5?

That's the best fit to you?

If you think adding a bench player is a better fit, then

A bench player you say? That's what Wiseman is going to be this season.

 

[tremonthustler1]

A traditional big man, who can't play like a traditional big man because he's been taught to play on the perimeter his entire life, and who can't shoot. Is that really a fit alongside Draymond, who also can't shoot, is reluctant to even shoot, and plays his best ball at the 5?

That's the best fit to you?

As opposed to anyone else who plays the same positions of the guys you're paying max deals to? if Wiseman ain't the future solution, so be it, but then they have no realistic solutions that can win them a title from their bigs. Without that, at best they're a fun exciting team with a fatal flaw they can't fix.

A bench player you say? That's what Wiseman is going to be this season.

and they're not a title contender until either he gets right or they get a way better option that isn't out there. If you're arguing that they're in a can't win situation, the evidence is there. 3 lotto picks and all they can do is hope Kenny Atkinson works his magic.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

As opposed to anyone else who plays the same positions of the guys you're paying max deals to? if Wiseman ain't the future solution, so be it, but then they have no realistic solutions that can win them a title from their bigs. Without that, at best they're a fun exciting team with a fatal flaw they can't fix.

They could've signed a big man in FA on the low that would've provided greater value and impact than Wiseman did last season. I really don't know how anyone could possibly look at Wiseman prior to the draft and believe for one second he was the best fit; not in terms of development (which was going to take a longer than almost every player in the lottery), direction of the league (Wiseman is a dinosaur who's masquerading as someone who can stretch the floor), and fit for the Warriors style of play.

Wiseman struck out in all those three key areas of fit.

And I don't see where you're going with this, considering the Warriors won a title in 2015 when they benched Bogut in the Finals, with Draymond moving to the 5; ran it back in 2016 with a similar big rotation, and were only one shot away from going back-to-back; then had a similar big rotation with KD in three years he was on the team.

Essentially, the Warriors success has been based upon them not having this big that you speak of as being a "fatal flaw" for them.

and they're not a title contender until either he gets right or they get a way better option that isn't out there. If you're arguing that they're in a can't win situation, the evidence is there. 3 lotto picks and all they can do is hope Kenny Atkinson works his magic.

By the time time that Wiseman gets it right (if he ever does), the core of Steph, Klay and Draymond will be done. No matter what you try to tell yourself, he was never the right fit for this team. We've already seen that, if anyone, LaMelo was the right fit, which shouldn't really come as any surprise given he fits right in with the direction the league has been headed over the last half a decade.

 

[tremonthustler1]

They could've signed a big man in FA on the low that would've provided greater value and impact than Wiseman did last season. I really don't know how anyone could possibly look at Wiseman prior to the draft and believe for one second he was the best fit; not in terms of development (which was going to take a longer than almost every player in the lottery), direction of the league (Wiseman is a dinosaur who's masquerading as someone who can stretch the floor), and fit for the Warriors style of play.

Wiseman struck out in all those three key areas of fit.

I'll keep hammering this point home. They've done exactly what you've suggested they do and it hasn't worked and it'll be less effective now that these contending teams all have length everywhere. Their entire bench consisted of mainly randoms off the street pretty much.

And I don't see where you're going with this, considering the Warriors won a title in 2015 when they benched Bogut in the Finals, with Draymond moving to the 5; ran it back in 2016 with a similar big rotation, and were only one shot away from going back-to-back; then had a similar big rotation with KD in three years he was on the team.

That was 5 years ago. A lot has changed since then. The pendulum has swung back to having bigs with length. You can get away with it with KD since he's a 7 footer himself practically and has crazy length (pause). Now there's teams out here tryna stockpile length where they can find it (and Golden State has three of them. They understand where the league is. They just hope they can either figure it out quick or develop it enough to attract other teams in trades-- the latter has yet to happen.) The AD's and Greek Freak's are gonna be able to counteract a small ball lineup. Add in the Holmgren's and Wembanyama's coming soon and if your only line of defense is Draymond, that's a risk teams are willing to take now.

By the time time that Wiseman gets it right (if he ever does), the core of Steph, Klay and Draymond will be done. No matter what you try to tell yourself, he was never the right fit for this team. We've already seen that, if anyone, LaMelo was the right fit, which shouldn't really come as any surprise given he fits right in with the direction the league has been headed over the last half a decade.

Even if you wanna say he was a good fit, he doesn't win them a ring last year and the only way they can address the problem that will cost them during this core's last stretch is by dealing him. How willing would they be to do that? Not at all. They'd be fun as hell to watch, but do they wanna have fun or do they wanna win? It's more likely that fans would just debate who has to go between Ball or Curry and that doesn't help a team either. Like I said, the ready to win bigs they need aren't available now and until that changes, we have this.

 

[High quality poster]

These nikkas arguing about Wiseman in a Jalen Green thread how sway?

 

[CantStop]

because they view Cade as that too, just with a higher floor. This was a draft where 4-5 guys are viewed as potential superstars.

You're also looking at it the wrong way. Cade was the consensus #1 pick. He's the guy who takes the pressure off Detroit if he doesn't pan out since most people woulda took Cade.

Green is a better fit, but y'all die on that BPA hill.

Kids not going to footlocker for the Cade 1's



"Y'all got them Cade's in white" - said nobody

meanwhile kids gonna be lining for the JG's

 

[El Jefe]

Kids not going to footlocker for the Cade 1's



"Y'all got them Cade's in white" - said nobody

meanwhile kids gonna be lining for the JG's

first in line for the Red Double OGs - OG /JG's