Jake The Snake on Queenzflip - HBK & Bret Hart Worst Champs Ever

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Don't agree with him. Certainly not with Bret anyway - dude drew the world over for WWE.

Doesn't surprise me though.

Doesn't change my opinion of Jake as the best wrestler to never hold a top strap.

He was a "normal-sized" mid-carder in the era of giants. Of course when people that look more like him start getting the headline shine, he's gonna feel bitter. :yeshrug:

At least he's staying clean. :salute: Praise DDP. :blessed:
 

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Don't agree with him. Certainly not with Bret anyway - dude drew the world over for WWE.

Doesn't surprise me though.

Doesn't change my opinion of Jake as the best wrestler to never hold a top strap.

He was a "normal-sized" mid-carder in the era of giants. Of course when people that look more like him start getting the headline shine, he's gonna feel bitter. :yeshrug:

At least he's staying clean. :salute: Praise DDP. :blessed:
Bitter? Its reality....if Bret Hart was a star, he would of changed the tide..not Austin. He bombed huge.
 

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Bitter? Its reality....if Bret Hart was a star, he would of changed the tide..not Austin. He bombed huge.

Bret didn't reach Hulk/Austin/Rock level in the US, but worldwide he was the most sellable thing the WWF had until Austin, particularly Europe where they were trying to expand into heavily through TV deals and European Rampage tours. I grew up in the 80s/90s in the UK - Bret was bigger than Hulk ever got here. He could still sell out a European Rampage tomorrow just cutting promos. Watch Summerslam '92 and then tell me he "bombed" as a main eventer.

Business was different in the mid 90s than it was in the 80s or the late 90s/00s, they were breaking new markets and Hulk wasn't the guy to do it (or a guy that wanted to either... he didn't even bother coming)... Europe didn't buy the whole "Real American" schtick as a positive. We wanted Warrior, Taker and Bret. :yeshrug: Ok, so we were wrong on Warrior.. :lolbron:
 

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Bret didn't reach Hulk/Austin/Rock level in the US, but worldwide he was the most sellable thing the WWF had until Austin, particularly Europe where they were trying to expand into heavily through TV deals and European Rampage tours. I grew up in the 80s/90s in the UK - Bret was bigger than Hulk ever got here. He could still sell out a European Rampage tomorrow just cutting promos. Watch Summerslam '92 and then tell me he "bombed" as a main eventer.

Business was different in the mid 90s than it was in the 80s or the late 90s/00s, they were breaking new markets and Hulk wasn't the guy to do it (or a guy that wanted to either... he didn't even bother coming)... Europe didn't buy the whole "Real American" schtick as a positive. We wanted Warrior, Taker and Bret. :yeshrug: Ok, so we were wrong on Warrior.. :lolbron:
He was pushed in that position after they got rid of Hogan and Warrior stayed inconsistent. He wasn't a game changer. Just a pushed top guy who could wrestle very crisply.
 

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Bullshyt. :comeon:

He assumed the throne when the steroids trial and the public's waning interest in the bodybuilder excess of the 80s left Hogan and Warrior inconsistent. :comeon:

When they panicked and let Hulk take the belt off Yoko at WMIX the crowd were *pissed*. :comeon:
The crowd STILL haven't let go of him finally being cheated out of it in Montreal.:comeon:


He pushed an Intercontinental Title match with the British fukking Bulldog into the main event of Summerslam, did ALL the promo work because Bulldog was tooting crack with the Anvil all summer and sleepwalked Bulldog through one of the best main events a WWE PPV has ever had,:comeon:
We were both watching breh:comeon:

You were a Hitman stan like everyone else and when the time was right he made you hate his guts.:comeon:

Throw your keyboard away. You're ridiculous.:gucci:
 

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Jake's life was REALLY fukked up, especially since both his father and grandfather were pedophiles, who were messing with his own sisters/their own children. shyt insane.
 

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Kids worldwide were stanning bret hard in the mid 90s. I remember wanting those sun glasses so bad.

Sid would have been a better option than hbk as the guy post bret imo. Then have the next breakthrough face beat him.

Hbk was just an annoying mid card runt. I never saw the appeal.
 
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