J Dilla aka Jay Dee is the most underrated "Hip Hop" producer of all time

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Big thanks to all those who came through with some of the batches (and more on top).

I’m now down to just looking for the following…

2000 Another Batch
2003 Batches 1 & 2
2004 Batch ‘Dil Withers’ / ‘The Motown Tape’
 

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Big thanks to all those who came through with some of the batches (and more on top).

I’m now down to just looking for the following…

2000 Another Batch
2003 Batches 1 & 2
2004 Batch ‘Dil Withers’ / ‘The Motown Tape’
 

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Underrated :wtf:
He is in the GOAT conversation, how can he be underrated?
Obviously you haven't seen posts like these
I like Dilla, never understood the hype to much, till this day i still say Madlib is levels above him even if he didnt make a chart topper.

now from a beat makers perspective i know why people like dilla, them beat tapes are a good blueprint, even though Dilla's beats can be abit boring.

I understand and respect the talent, but I feel like he's forced into GOAT convos. Like, with other producers, you know certain work put them into those conversations. Like, Dre has Chronic (and even if you remove Chronic there's Doggystyle and other albums you could put there), Marley has Ain't No Half Steppin' and Mama Said Knock You Out, RZA has 36 Chambers and the solos from Wu members. Premo has iconic songs on Nas, Biggie, and Jay Z debuts on top of the Gangstarr, Group Home, Jeru The Damaja stuff. I could go on. With J. Dilla, I don't see that. Not saying that he isn't great, but when people say GOAT or even Top 10, I just can't put him over a lot of producers that I consider Top 10. He's more Top 15-20 to me.

While I respect it, I just don't see it. Nothing he did with those artists is on par with producers who get brought up in Top 10 lists. Badu is R&B and my favorite Dilla productions is what he did for her.
 

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I understand and respect the talent, but I feel like he's forced into GOAT convos. Like, with other producers, you know certain work put them into those conversations. Like, Dre has Chronic (and even if you remove Chronic there's Doggystyle and other albums you could put there), Marley has Ain't No Half Steppin' and Mama Said Knock You Out, RZA has 36 Chambers and the solos from Wu members. Premo has iconic songs on Nas, Biggie, and Jay Z debuts on top of the Gangstarr, Group Home, Jeru The Damaja stuff. I could go on. With J. Dilla, I don't see that. Not saying that he isn't great, but when people say GOAT or even Top 10, I just can't put him over a lot of producers that I consider Top 10. He's more Top 15-20 to me.

I disagree because while we can debate the album thing, it's hard to deny his sound became the back bone of large segments of hip hop. And jazz. And r&b.
 

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I disagree because while we can debate the album thing, it's hard to deny his sound became the back bone of large segments of hip hop. And jazz. And r&b.

It's not just the albums. There's other producers who created a sound for others ir a sound in general or were made songs that were integral in the careers of artists that are considered GOATs. With Dre, I don't really have to list the artists. It goes without saying. RZA's the same. DJ Premier is the same.

And the thing with Dilla is that the arguments for why Dilla is GOAT is used against say a Timbaland. He is the backbone for a lot of Hip Hop, R&B, but Pop and other genres as well. But if someone used that to prop him in a Hip Hop discussion, it wouldn't fly. He would be hit with the "he's more of an R&B producer" tag.
 

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