I've Been Studying The Bible, Qu'ran, Hadith And The Teachings Of Elijah Muhammad For 20 Years...AMA

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

You are contradicting yourself here. First you say he didn't confess, then you say he confessed. Which one was it?

Deny and confess are not synonyms

He confessed meaning that he came out with came forward with and provided information...he didn't deny...he didn't say hey don't call me the Christ...he said look nikka I am not the Christ don't get me fukked up...lol...those are 2 different things

Your comprehension is a bit off bro. How could Moses say that that Prophet was Jesus when he didn't know Jesus? The scriptures that I presented to you shows that Jesus confirmed that he was the prophet to which Moses spoke of hundreds of years before.

Ok so Moses didn't refer to Jesus as that prophet but Jesus confirmed that he was the prophet that Moses was speaking of so my point stands...

The Pharisees made a distinction between Jesus and that prophet...

Moses was speaking of Jesus in reference to that profit...u just said that Jesus confirmed that Moses was talking about him so the that prophet that Moses was talking about is different from the that prophet that the Pharisees were talking about

Part of the reason for the misunderstanding came from the fact that the Hebrew Scriptures showed the Messiah coming in two different roles. One portrayed him as “a humble man, riding upon an ass,” the other a powerful warrior “coming with the clouds of the heavens” with fire in his eyes and a sword in his mouth (see the Word of God scripture from Revelations I posted previously).

The Jews disagreed about whether these prophecies were about two different Messiahs or if they applied to just one and the other a Prophet. They failed to understand that the prophecies related to two distinct appearances of the Messiah, first when he came as a humble man and then a second coming as a powerful, King of Kings, at Armageddon.

I believe that the two messiah are metaphorical in reference to how meek Jesus was and how Islam conquered thru war I admit I probably need to study that more

What do you mean that the word is something that cannot be seen? What scriptures do you have to support this? Especially considering it say the Word was made flesh and dwelled among people? Meaning, people saw the Word in the flesh.

The Word =/= the Comforter

John 14:17 Jesus says the spirit of truth cannot be received because u seeth it not but you know him for he dwelleth with you
and shall be in you...but I will not leave u comfortless...

The spirit lived in the disciples until the comforter became flesh/Muhammad

It that why it makes the claim that the Holy Trinity is the Father, Son, and Mary? I mean, the Holy Trinity is FOUNDATIONAL to Christianity. If you got something so basic wrong, what else could you have possibly gotten wrong???

Can you unpack this for me, too?

The Qur'an proclaims time and time again that Allah is God...anything outside of that is inconsequential...to place such a heavy emphasis on a trinity is futile...ive never heard of a Islamic Holy Trinity....the reason why the Holy Trinity is emphasized in the bible is so that Jesus can let it be known that he is not the last and that someone is to come after him...which he made very clear to his disciples

Mansions in Heaven are neither here nor there to the discussion

I think it's very important to the conversation because it makes clear that our arguments are futile because we all believe in God and his Christ and he is the way the truth and the light...so when he says there are many mansions he's letting it be known that there will be some differences between our beliefs but thats ok because we will all have our mansions as long as we know that there is God his christ and his Holy spirit/comforter

It is the Word that made the Heavens and Earth as nothing was made that has been made without him. If you are not submitting to Christ (The Word) through whom all things were made, then who you are you submitting to?

I am submitting to the will of god


Allahuakbar

 

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Deny and confess are not synonyms

He confessed meaning that he came out with came forward with and provided information...he didn't deny...he didn't say hey don't call me the Christ...he said look nikka I am not the Christ don't get me fukked up...lol...those are 2 different things



Ok so Moses didn't refer to Jesus as that prophet but Jesus confirmed that he was the prophet that Moses was speaking of so my point stands...

The Pharisees made a distinction between Jesus and that prophet...

Moses was speaking of Jesus in reference to that profit...u just said that Jesus confirmed that Moses was talking about him so the that prophet that Moses was talking about is different from the that prophet that the Pharisees were talking about



I believe that the two messiah are metaphorical in reference to how meek Jesus was and how Islam conquered thru war I admit I probably need to study that more



John 14:17 Jesus says the spirit of truth cannot be received because u seeth it not but you know him for he dwelleth with you
and shall be in you...but I will not leave u comfortless...

The spirit lived in the disciples until the comforter became flesh/Muhammad



The Qur'an proclaims time and time again that Allah is God...anything outside of that is inconsequential...to place such a heavy emphasis on a trinity is futile...ive never heard of a Islamic Holy Trinity....the reason why the Holy Trinity is emphasized in the bible is so that Jesus can let it be known that he is not the last and that someone is to come after him...which he made very clear to his disciples



I think it's very important to the conversation because it makes clear that our arguments are futile because we all believe in God and his Christ and he is the way the truth and the light...so when he says there are many mansions he's letting it be known that there will be some differences between our beliefs but thats ok because we will all have our mansions as long as we know that there is God his christ and his Holy spirit/comforter



I am submitting to the will of god


Allahuakbar

You tried your best. Thanks for providing enlightenment.

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

How is that possible? I don't know. That's the mystery of Christianity.

That's the point that I am trying to make Elijah Muhammad teaches that there is no mystery about God Jesus the Holy spirit and the message!!!

If u believe in the Holy spirit/comforter then u believe that Jesus let it be known that there was something after him...wether u believe that's Muhammad or not doesn't matter...but this comforter according to Jesus will teach of all things and bring all things to your remembrance John 14:26

That means that the comforter will help u know and make clear and not leave you in mystery...HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS

now I believe that describes Muhammad and Islam...if u believe that describes something different...thats fine because Allah has many mansions

 

[invalid]

Christians interpretation of The Christ is wrong...but you can't blame them...He did miraculous unheard of things it's kinda hard not to believe that he is the savior...however he says so himself that there is more after him...he refers to it as The Holy Ghost...Christians believe that The Holy Ghost is an actual ghost or spirit as opposed to a physical being...and attribute the Trinity as God, The Christ, and the Holy Ghost...Allah(God) is a physical being, Jesus is a physical being but not the Holy Ghost??...The Holy Ghost, whom The Christ warns to listen to after he is gone, is none other than the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

This is about the Muslim apologist Zakir Naik that first put forward the lie that Muhammad is the Comforter.

 

[Ducktales]

Brainwash yourself for over 20 years

good job op

 

[invalid]

This is about the Muslim apologist Zakir Naik that first put forward the lie that Muhammad is the Comforter.

Zakir Naik inadvertently proves that Jesus is Allah (God).

Biblical scriptures reveal that Jesus sent the Comforter but the Koran holds that Allah sent Muhummad.

If Muhummad = The Comforter then Jesus = Allah.

Another of the one million ways that Islam is false.

Also, Islam has a real problem in how it portrays the Prophet Jesus. What was his purpose?

He was essentially a failed prophet.

The Koran holds that Allah sent Jesus to the Jews and they rejected him.

The Koran holds that Allah sent Jesus to the Christians who falsely believed that Jesus is God and started a false religion around the idea.

If Jews rejected Jesus and Christians started a false religion, Jesus really had no purpose. Allah essentially sent a failed prophet. And yet Muhummad comes along 600 years later still saying he was a prophet sent from Allah?

Muslims like to claim that the Gospel is corrupted. When I open up the Gospel accounts, they all proclaim that Jesus was crucified.

So who corrupted the Gospel?

According to the Koran, Allah deceived the people making it look like that Jesus was crucified.

So Allah deceived Jesus' followers who then went on to proclaim Christ's divinity and start the false religion of Christianity?

This would make Allah as the source of the deception and corruption of the Gospel.

Why would Allah corrupt his own word?

I don't know but it's quite on brand for Allah of which the Koran states that he is the "greatest of deceivers.."

Ironically, Jesus also speaks about the "greatest of deceivers".

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

The Devil being the "Father of Lies" and Allah being the "Greatest of Deceivers".....hmmm...

 

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@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited what do you think about the above?

@ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested get in here and explain.

 

[skylove4]

Nothing dumb about Master Fard Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, And Farrakhan

This is a whole ass white man that told black folks to call him master

 

[skylove4]

Christians interpretation of The Christ is wrong...but you can't blame them...He did miraculous unheard of things it's kinda hard not to believe that he is the savior...however he says so himself that there is more after him...he refers to it as The Holy Ghost...Christians believe that The Holy Ghost is an actual ghost or spirit as opposed to a physical being...and attribute the Trinity as God, The Christ, and the Holy Ghost...Allah(God) is a physical being, Jesus is a physical being but not the Holy Ghost??...The Holy Ghost, whom The Christ warns to listen to after he is gone, is none other than the prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

@Chrishaune is this true ?

 

[Chrishaune]

@Chrishaune is this true ?

That's a lie. Pentecost is when the Holy Spirit came. Muhammad is a child of the Serpent.


Now watch hit demons holler.

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

This is about the Muslim apologist Zakir Naik that first put forward the lie that Muhammad is the Comforter.

I Don’t know who this clown is…go read Message to the Blackman

 

[invalid]

I Don’t know who this clown is

The man who started the Muhummad is the Comforter non-sense. I had never heard of that before so I did some research. You call him a clown but parroting his talking points. Do better black man.

 

[ImmaGetJoeClarkArrested]

The man who started the Muhummad is the Comforter non-sense. I had never heard of that before so I did some research. You call him a clown but parroting his talking points. Do better black man.

Go read message to the Blackman

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Are God and the Devil one and the same?

 

[invalid]

Go read message to the Blackman

Elijah Muhammad proclaims in Message to the Black Man that the Comforter is Allah. Not Muhummad.

Chapter 6 The Coming of the Son of Man, The Great Mahdi

For as the lightning cometh out of the East, and shineth even unto the West, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be." (Matt. 24:27)

My greatest and only desire is to bring true understanding of the word of God, His prophets and the scriptures, which the prophets were sent with, pertaining to the lost-found people (the American so-called Negroes) of God and the judgment of the world.

You must forget about ever seeing the return of Jesus, Who was here 2,000 years ago. Set your heart on seeing the One that He prophesied would come at the end of the present world's time (the white race's time).

He is called the "Son of Man," the "Christ," the "Comforter." You are really foolish to be looking to see the return of the Prophet Jesus. It is the same as looking for the return of Abraham, Moses and Muhammad. All of these prophets prophesied the coming of Allah or one with equal power, under many names. You must remember that Jesus could not have been referring to Himself as returning to the people in the last days. He prophesied on another's coming who was much greater than He. Jesus even acknowledged that He did not know when the hour would come in these words; "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." (Matt. 24:36).

Elijah Muhammad says the Comforter is Allah or someone with equal power.

Which he's correct. The Comforter is not a prophet. The Comforter is God or something co-equal with God.

So, are you in agreement with Elijah Muhammad or Zakir Naik?