It's time to really reevaluate Izzo...

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First big 10 reg season title in 6 years

Top recruits never really develop under him

Third straight tournament flame out

People need to start asking questions up in East Lansing.
This right here goes overlooked, people always gushing about how he does less with more when the reality is that alot of top 75 recruits put their 4 year bid in with him and don't develop into pros, so he ends up getting extra credit for those guys not developing into NBA players.
 

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This right here goes overlooked, people always gushing about how he does less with more when the reality is that alot of top 75 recruits put their 4 year bid in with him and don't develop into pros, so he ends up getting extra credit for those guys not developing into NBA players.
Meanwhile, Beilein is steadily turning 3-4 star recruits into lottery picks and first rounders. :whistle:
 

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*tier one coaches don't have that many first weekend exits do they?

I think he has to win another one to be tier one. tier one is an elite class. He's not there, yet. When have you known an elite coach with a team that was heralded as a FF lock (at least) lose their opening game?


Who is tier one to you?
 

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MSU ran into a team built to give them fits. Bad luck. That being said it's also clear that this team, which was talented enough to win it all, grew tired of Izzo. The nonstop yelling and all that extra shyt added up and they just fell apart when it mattered. Either against good teams in the season or in the B10 tournament, or today.

I think this is the end. This is the second time in a row he's had a very talented team and they completely fizzled out early.
 

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MSU ran into a team built to give them fits. Bad luck. That being said it's also clear that this team, which was talented enough to win it all, grew tired of Izzo. The nonstop yelling and all that extra shyt added up and they just fell apart when it mattered. Either against good teams in the season or in the B10 tournament, or today.

I think this is the end. This is the second time in a row he's had a very talented team and they completely fizzled out early.
He overcoaches like crazy. That nonsense might work with lesser talented squads, but guys who know their worth and will be in the pros will tune that bullshyt out.
 

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If you wanna fukk up and over think about this and get rid of izzo, yousa fool.

Ain't nobody going down to east lansing and being consistently successful.
The environment is like bad news bears at its core and if you get rid of izzo. Duke turns into another saban story. Plus, nobody goes to that school to coach ever again and msu is back to really being the real loser ass msu. Sorry, but no.
Sad they lost, but I would rather lose in the tourney with this god send of a coach to east lansing. Then ever try to see izzi not there. If you went to msu, before izzo. Ain't no way you thinking of going back to that always supposed loser assumed bulshyt. Being scum whipping ass bih just because every year. Getting and feelin like a peon every year. Nobody who went to msu before izzo got there should ever even fukk'N SUGGEST THIS EVER.

If you new to msu and suggest it,....
shyt, If I even may have said think about it before. I was in error and apologize cause the shyt complete crazy talk.
Especially with the way things are now.

This is just like saban,...no the fukk you do not get rid of izzo.

Period,...keep izzo till he die!
like that past fossil and we can only credit him for magic and Steve smith.

With izzo at least I know we own the division. Looked at like pride, given some respect past what msu is and treated considerably and legendary well and with complete honorable dignity. No way I even endorse this asinine idea about going back to that loser shyt, ever. fukk NO.

fukk anybody suggesting this too.
As I know you ain't went to msu before this at all. Period.



Art Barr

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I dust mopped that fukk'n floor at breslin feeling like a loser everyday. fukk that.
I would give anything to dust mop that bytch now and feel like how msu is treated now.
You crazy to ever suggest firing izzo.
 
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