Its time for the WWE to really find a black man to base the brand around

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None of the guys currently on the roster could be it because WWE has already done variations with their characters and at the end of the day came to the decision that they can only get over as goofball comedic wrestlers.
Big E is a Booty-O eating, unicorn horn wearing clown.
Titus is a bumbling clown.
Montez Ford is currently a dancing clown.
Velveteen Dream is a Prince impersonating clown.
Apollo is the grinning sidekick to Titus' clown.

And I am not even counting any of the 205 Live guys because they are all stuck in flop purgatory and will never be allowed out of it.

shyt on TNA/GWF all you want but at least they allow black wrestlers to be seen as serious bad asses who can be the face of the company. Lashley and Moose aren't dancing, grinning clowns.

So the issue is that WWE has it ingrained into the fabric of the company that black wrestlers can't be handled like a Brock or Roman or Cena or Bryan or Finn or Braun. Black dudes gotta some variation of a clown.
 

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I said low key gimmick, of course he's strong but not ELITE like the legit guys who I listed. WWE used to book him as the strongest guy on the roster when that frankly was never true.

"Wrestling" doesn't matter. What part of that don't you all understand?
So why don't we see Titus O'Neal in the ring anymore?
 

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Despite what some people in here have said, Big E has major star potential and Vince was a big fan of Big E until he got behind Roman Reigns. I really wish that they would abandon this Roman Reigns project because it's been a colossal flop. Big E has the mic skills and personality that Reigns doesn't have.
 

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Despite what some people in here have said, Big E has major star potential and Vince was a big fan of Big E until he got behind Roman Reigns. I really wish that they would abandon this Roman Reigns project because it's been a colossal flop. Big E has the mic skills and personality that Reigns doesn't have.
Weren't the rumors that H wanted Reigns and Vince wanted Big E?
 

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Weren't the rumors that H wanted Reigns and Vince wanted Big E?

Yeah.

Report: Vince McMahon Very High On Big E. Langston - eWrestlingNews.com

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Vince McMahon is said to be very high on Big E Langston these days and is all for pushing him to the top. However, Triple H has suggested that they take things with a slower approach, letting Langston work off Dolph Ziggler for as long as possible. It should be noted that Vince McMahon is not the only strong supporter of Langston. Current WWE Champion John Cena has been “looking out” for Langston ever since he got called up to the main roster. Cena has basically taken Langston under his wing and has been grooming him “every step of the way.” Both Cena and Langston train together on the road and Cena has turned Big E. into a “personal project” to make sure that Langston is a future headliner. Currently, Big E Langston has more support than any other new guy on the roster.

Speaking of John Cena, with The Rock and CM Punk currently out of the picture, Cena has more pull than ever before. There is also believed to be some minor tension between John Cena and Vince McMahon. With Cena feeling ‘neglected” over the last year or so, the company has been doing everything possible the last couple of weeks to keep him happy.


From a podcast with Wade Keller:

http://podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=542&pid=480303

Keller: But Hunter a year ago was debating Vince McMahon. Hunter saying "I like Roman" and Vince was saying "I like Big E". I mean clearly, Roman is way ahead of him now but...I mean not that Vince wasn't for Roman but Vince's big project was Big E at that moment...
 

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Now that The New Day are champs again they can ride that momentum with a feud with Jinder and the Singh Brothers. Have Kofi and Xavier deal with the Singhs for the tag titles while Big E feuds with Jinder for the WWE Championship.... it writes itself. :yeshrug:

6 man HIAC for the tag team & WWE titles :banderas:
 

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Now that The New Day are champs again they can ride that momentum with a feud with Jinder and the Singh Brothers. Have Kofi and Xavier deal with the Singhs for the tag titles while Big E feuds with Jinder for the WWE Championship.... it writes itself. :yeshrug:

Imagine Heel Day with all the titles. Big E with the World, Kofi with the US/IC and Xavier with CW while being tag champs as well.
 

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The Cesaro strength thing is low key a gimmick. I don't think he's stronger than Cena, and definitely not Braun, E and Henry who are legit strongmen.

Now someone else tell me Titus doesn't have it after listening to this crowd reaction against the most pushed guy on the roster:


He doesn't have it and never ever ever will.
 

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Yeah.

Report: Vince McMahon Very High On Big E. Langston - eWrestlingNews.com

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Vince McMahon is said to be very high on Big E Langston these days and is all for pushing him to the top. However, Triple H has suggested that they take things with a slower approach, letting Langston work off Dolph Ziggler for as long as possible. It should be noted that Vince McMahon is not the only strong supporter of Langston. Current WWE Champion John Cena has been “looking out” for Langston ever since he got called up to the main roster. Cena has basically taken Langston under his wing and has been grooming him “every step of the way.” Both Cena and Langston train together on the road and Cena has turned Big E. into a “personal project” to make sure that Langston is a future headliner. Currently, Big E Langston has more support than any other new guy on the roster.

Speaking of John Cena, with The Rock and CM Punk currently out of the picture, Cena has more pull than ever before. There is also believed to be some minor tension between John Cena and Vince McMahon. With Cena feeling ‘neglected” over the last year or so, the company has been doing everything possible the last couple of weeks to keep him happy.


From a podcast with Wade Keller:

http://podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=542&pid=480303

Keller: But Hunter a year ago was debating Vince McMahon. Hunter saying "I like Roman" and Vince was saying "I like Big E". I mean clearly, Roman is way ahead of him now but...I mean not that Vince wasn't for Roman but Vince's big project was Big E at that moment...
:jbhmm:

Taking it off E for a second, I wonder if Vince gets too much of the blame for Roman's hyper push. You hear people in the industry and in the company talk about him, and it sounds like everyone is high on dude. If Vince started out considering someone else for the third Shield member, that makes me wonder if it's a case of Trips et al convincing him and everyone being too stubborn to give in once the solo push happened.

Not that it didn't all work out. The Shield was huge, and now Roman and The New Day are the biggest merch movers in the company.
 

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Taking it off E for a second, I wonder if Vince gets too much of the blame for Roman's hyper push. You hear people in the industry and in the company talk about him, and it sounds like everyone is high on dude. If Vince started out considering someone else for the third Shield member, that makes me wonder if it's a case of Trips et al convincing him and everyone being too stubborn to give in once the solo push happened.

Not that it didn't all work out. The Shield was huge, and now Roman and The New Day are the biggest merch movers in the company.

Vince signs off on everything, so yeah he does deserve the large portion of the blame. And it not like the issues that Reigns is having are new to the company and we've seen how those were dealt with in the past.
 

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Vince signs off on everything, so yeah he does deserve the large portion of the blame. And it not like the issues that Reigns is having are new to the company and we've seen how those were dealt with in the past.
Right, but what I mean is, people like to present the issues as Vince making all these unilateral decisions and everyone else being helpless to him. But this shows that isn't wholly the case. For example, Vince also signs off on everything New Day does, which by their own admission, are their own ideas that they take to him. Or even in this case, Vince could just as easily told Trips to piss off and put E in the Shield. So it's not like Vince can't be swayed or moved into better creative decisions.

Vince, as the guy who has final say, does shoulder most of the responsibility. I agree, definitely. I just think that sometimes it's easy to forget the company's problems creatively run deeper than just him.
 
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