It's never been about Peyton vs. Brady...It's BEEN about Manning the OC vs. Bill Belichek the DC

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And im talking about Crennel vs. Peyton, Crennel was the Defensive coordinator and ever since he took the Browns job Hoodie hasn't fielded a good defense since then and can't draft any good defender remember all the good defense players from that era where from Parcells
crennel was a fukking special teams coach when Beli used to school the Niners offense. stop it.
 

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And what does that have to do with my post?

:mindblown:

WHAT POINT are you debating?
youre wasting you time Reb, this thread will naturally end up in brady>manning or manning>brady statements. thats how they all end...
 

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Exactly. You're talking NOTHING we're talking about. What we're talking about is broad.

Shut the fukk up.

Dawg stop we are talking about the Patriots vs. Manning Romeo was the defensive coordinator and we can hate all we want but Belichek defense has been ass since then and the Chiefs became a good to great defense under him


Tough talk get your mouth slapped with ease i made my poi
crennel was a fukking special teams coach when Beli used to school the Niners offense. stop it.
 

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Sad and true. And as knowledgeable the thread starter is, you can feel the bias in his post. :yeshrug:
And you can see you have no counter argument as usual.

You can "feel"

emotions

Here's the thing about empty responses like yours....your inability to go toe to toe with the OP says everything. Even the cornball you c/s had no physical counterargument. His argument was tied to "why" Manning vs. Brady is used when that is a moot point.
 

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Dawg stop we are talking about the Patriots vs. Manning Romeo was the defensive coordinator and we can hate all we want but Belichek defense has been ass since then and the Chiefs became a good to great defense under him


Tough talk get your mouth slapped with ease i made my poi

And that takes away from when his defenses were beasting and what he did with them in the playoffs?
 

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Dawg stop we are talking about the Patriots vs. Manning Romeo was the defensive coordinator and we can hate all we want but Belichek defense has been ass since then and the Chiefs became a good to great defense under him
you really think a defensive mastermind like beli delegated all or even most defensive duties to crennel ? :what: how good are you in understanding football ? do you think beli doesnt do any defensive work just because hes a head coach now ? :wtf:

beli was the one who schemed the fukk out of that rams SB game, easily one of the best called scheming Ive ever seen against a real explosive offense back when an explosive offense was actually extremely rare and meant something.
 

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no...using qb vs. qb facing off in one game is garbage.

This isn't tennis. They don't face off against each other.

Leave dumb ass.

QB vs QB has always been dumb


but its fairly obvious you are only pointing this out in an attempt to slight brady

"manning the QB OC" is also retarded. manning can frantically flap his arms around like an idiot all he wants, it doesnt make his presnap reads and adjustments any better or more impressive than bradys.
 
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Beli's D hasn't been on point since 2004. FOH :camby:
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2007 Allowed 274 points (17.1/g), 4th.
2006 Allowed 237 points (14.8/g), 2nd.
2009 Allowed 285 points (17.8/g), 5th
2010 Allowed 313 points (19.6/g), 8th.
2012 Allowed 331 points (20.7/g), 9th
 

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QB vs QB has always been dumb


but its fairly obvious you are only pointing this out in an attempt to slight brady

"manning the QB OC" is also retarded. manning can frantically flap his arms around like an idiot all he wants, it doesnt make his presnap reads and adjustments any better or more impressive than bradys.
Id probably still take brady over peyton, although its extremely close now (not that its the topic on hand), but peyton presnap reads/adjustments are best in the business, man.peyton is the best reader of defenses Ive ever seen, by a longshot imo.
 

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Bullshyt being the facts? I'm tired of manning fans going with this narrative that the reason he doesn't have as many rings was because of the defense, well his defense wasnt any better then Brady's in the playoffs. So what's the excuse.... Luck?

Lol at being a scrub he wasn't as good as he is now(obviously) but he was one of the best QBs in football from 01-05. You can site SB against the rams and I could easily cite the one against the panthers where he shredded that defense when his own got destroyed.

A peyton manning fan has no right to talk about being carried where he had a 3-7 TD to pick ratio in his only SB run and the lowest passer rating for a SB winning QB in history

Tom Brady shredded the Panthers in '03 and he played great against the Eagles in '04. I should know, I cried seeing Philly lose by 3 fukkin points. Even in '07 and '11, Brady put up good numbers. Eli and The Giants just did more.

Meanwhile Peyton has never played better in either of his Superbowls.

As usual, these kids focus on every statistic except the ones that matter :outbackcac:
 

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QB vs QB has always been dumb


but its fairly obvious you are only pointing this out in an attempt to slight brady

"manning the QB OC" is also retarded. manning can frantically flap his arms around like an idiot all he wants, it doesnt make his presnap reads and adjustments any better or more impressive than bradys.
Where am I slighting Brady? Quote me.

I said nothing about him. It's about OC vs. DC coordinator. Peyton happens to play both roles....and you aren't beating the king most times. Belichick is the greatest at it. All of that other stuff you posted has NOTHING to do with anything "I" said.

You dudes stay responding to yourselves and strawmen. Brady isn't my argument.
 

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you really think a defensive mastermind like beli delegated all or even most defensive duties to crennel ? :what: how good are you in understanding football ? do you think beli doesnt do any defensive work just because hes a head coach now ? :wtf:

beli was the one who schemed the fukk out of that rams SB game, easily one of the best called scheming Ive ever seen against a real explosive offense back when an explosive offense was actually extremely rare and meant something.


So what happened to this masterful scheming and you want to give Bellichek all the credit for the giants defense because he was the coordinator yet you don't want to give Parcells the credit since it was his defense and he was also a defensive coordinator either give crennel the credit for locking up manning or change your stance
 

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So what happened to this masterful scheming and you want to give Bellichek all the credit for the giants defense because he was the coordinator yet you don't want to give Parcells the credit since it was his defense and he was also a defensive coordinator either give crennel the credit for locking up manning or change your stance
The Giants went ham on the Pats defense?
 
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