It's never been about Peyton vs. Brady...It's BEEN about Manning the OC vs. Bill Belichek the DC

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The other point your making, well shyt that's all in the grey area. It's not like Peyton is going in there with the Bad News Bears defense and have Stevie Wonder as his DC. Dungy is a HOF coach. It's a straight up disrespect to say that Peyton was handicapped in the coaching department.
Im not even saying anything about peyton or brady or their coaches being handicapped. it's not a thinly veiled attempt to shyt on brady and big up manning, I dont really care enough about either of them, MY point here is that people love QB A vs QB B narratives when their teams play each other, whereas the defense often and usually dictates the outcome moreso than the golden boy qbs.

all I said its bigger than qb a vs qb b, while media and fans make it out to be like a boxing match. beli is perhaps the best d coordinator there was, and this has to be accounted for, but never is when media builds their stories.

shyt, the first time SF played SEA this year, it was kaep vs russ :wtf: when we had two of the best 3 defenses square off
 

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You know what I mean :upsetfavre:
In Brady's 7 playoff losses, the Patriots defense has allowed 192 points=27 PPG
In Manning's 11 playoff losses, the Colts/Broncos defense has allowed 271 points -24 PPG
In Brady's 17 playoff wins, the Patriots defense has allowed 285 points=17 PPG
In Manning's 9 playoff wins, the Colts defense has allowed 129 points=14 PPG

One of the biggest myths in sports is that tom has had better defenses in the playoffs

stop with this bullshyt. Everyone with a brain knows Brady's ENTIRE REPUTATION was built when he was a scrub throwing for 150 yards a game getting carried to 3 rings by DEFENSE FULL OF HALL OF FAMERS

If you take away that entire run to start Bradys career you may have a point. But you can't so you don't.

The most accurate thing about your statement is Brady has Zero rings without a Hall of Fame D and that shows that he shouldnt have gotten all the credit for the rings that he does now in the 1st place
 

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Reason season champion trophies don't get handed out. :lupe:

But banners do :mjpls:

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Hang Banners in your stadium remembering the biggest choke job of all time, brehs
 

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You know what I mean :upsetfavre:
In Brady's 7 playoff losses, the Patriots defense has allowed 192 points=27 PPG
In Manning's 11 playoff losses, the Colts/Broncos defense has allowed 271 points -24 PPG
In Brady's 17 playoff wins, the Patriots defense has allowed 285 points=17 PPG
In Manning's 9 playoff wins, the Colts defense has allowed 129 points=14 PPG

One of the biggest myths in sports is that tom has had better defenses in the playoffs

1st of all :laff: at 24.6 rounding to 24 and while 16.8 rounds to 17.

It's always funny when people post numbers trying to make a point and the numbers contradict said point.

Those numbers suggest that each QB is more likely to win when his defense keeps the other team in check and more likely to lose when their defense fails to do so. They also suggest that Brady's defense has kept the other team in check far more often. Seriously what were you trying to prove by posting those numbers? :heh:
 

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stop with this bullshyt. Everyone with a brain knows Brady's ENTIRE REPUTATION was built when he was a scrub throwing for 150 yards a game getting carried to 3 rings by DEFENSE FULL OF HALL OF FAMERS

If you take away that entire run to start Bradys career you may have a point. But you can't so you don't.

The most accurate thing about your statement is Brady has Zero rings without a Hall of Fame D and that shows that he shouldnt have gotten all the credit for the rings that he does now in the 1st place

Peyton won his SB when he threw 3 TDs and 7 INTs during the playoffs:skip:

Average QB rating of 67 :laff::laff::laff::laff:
 

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Whoa there cowboy. I though the season for a team mattered from the snap down to the last. Reason season champion trophies don't get handed out. :lupe:
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This is different than your original premise which was Beli hasn't been shyt since "the league took his tapes away"...it's asinine to assert that when he had historical seasons post-Spygate.

Ahh fukk it, nevermind. Forgot I'm arguing with a Manning stan.
 

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he also led the biggest comeback in Conference Championship history, Became only QB in history to beat #1,#2, #3 total defenses in same playoff run, oh and won Superbowl MVP

his D carried him :usure:

Had an average QB rating of 67 in that playoff run.

His career average is 97.

Yeah, it was because of him they won a SB:snoop::leostare::skip::pachaha:
 

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stop with this bullshyt. Everyone with a brain knows Brady's ENTIRE REPUTATION was built when he was a scrub throwing for 150 yards a game getting carried to 3 rings by DEFENSE FULL OF HALL OF FAMERS

If you take away that entire run to start Bradys career you may have a point. But you can't so you don't.

The most accurate thing about your statement is Brady has Zero rings without a Hall of Fame D and that shows that he shouldnt have gotten all the credit for the rings that he does now in the 1st place

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Bullshyt being the facts? I'm tired of manning fans going with this narrative that the reason he doesn't have as many rings was because of the defense, well his defense wasnt any better then Brady's in the playoffs. So what's the excuse.... Luck?

Lol at being a scrub he wasn't as good as he is now(obviously) but he was one of the best QBs in football from 01-05. You can site SB against the rams and I could easily cite the one against the panthers where he shredded that defense when his own got destroyed.

A peyton manning fan has no right to talk about being carried where he had a 3-7 TD to pick ratio in his only SB run and the lowest passer rating for a SB winning QB in history
 

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1st of all :laff: at 24.6 rounding to 24 and while 16.8 rounds to 17.

It's always funny when people post numbers trying to make a point and the numbers contradict said point.

Those numbers suggest that each QB is more likely to win when his defense keeps the other team in check and more likely to lose when their defense fails to do so. They also suggest that Brady's defense has kept the other team in check far more often. Seriously what were you trying to prove by posting those numbers? :heh:

Defenses are near identical in both wins and losses statistically in the playoffs. Please stop with this excuse
 

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Bullshyt being the facts? I'm tired of manning fans going with this narrative that the reason he doesn't have as many rings was because of the defense, well his defense wasnt any better then Brady's in the playoffs. So what's the excuse.... Luck?

Lol at being a scrub he wasn't as good as he is now(obviously) but he was one of the best QBs in football from 01-05. You can site SB against the rams and I could easily cite the one against the panthers where he shredded that defense when his own got destroyed.

A peyton manning fan has no right to talk about being carried where he had a 3-7 TD to pick ratio in his only SB run and the lowest passer rating for a SB winning QB in history

Brady wasn't a Top 15 QB during any of his SB runs and you can hold me to that quote

he did have one of the best defenses of all time carrying him though

Peyton meanwhile had the hardest run of any QB in playoff history (fact) and won a SB and MVP in the most inclimate weather conditions ever. He had a run for the legends, better than any of Bradys
 

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This is different than your original premise which was Beli hasn't been shyt since "the league took his tapes away"...it's asinine to assert that when he had historical seasons post-Spygate.

Ahh fukk it, nevermind. Forgot I'm arguing with a Manning stan.

I'm an Eagles fan, McNabb stan. :heh:


I cheer for the dumbest franchise in football, I know dumb shyt when I see it breh. That 16-0 banner is code red, level 10 dumb. Most tragic season in football history.
 
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