It's Going Down In Milwaukee Right Now: Milwaukee Heads Check In

[loyola llothta]

Website ranks Wisconsin as 'worst state for black Americans'

A news and opinion website has created an index of socioeconomic data, using 12 metrics such as infant mortality and poverty, that ranks Wisconsin as "the worst state for black Americans."

The "24/7 Wall Street" website compiled the rankings based on data including household income, the percentage of people without health insurance, educational attainment, homeownership, unemployment, incarceration rates, and mortality among infants as well as other age groups.

The report noted that Milwaukee is home to "the vast majority of the state's black population."

The findings are the latest in more than a decade of statistics and studies that show that African-Americans in Wisconsin and its largest city, Milwaukee, often find themselves at the economic and social extremes compared with the rest of the nation.

But a University of Wisconsin-Madison economics professor, who specializes in income inequality and poverty issues, criticized the presentation of the index as misleading.

"Those types of statistics have been around for a while," said Steven Durlauf.

The data in isolation give the wrong impression, Durlauf argued.

"I'm certain, for instance, that the health benefits in Wisconsin are more generous to disadvantaged people than they are in Mississippi, and that includes African-Americans," Durlauf said.

He also is familiar with studies that correlate the incarceration rates for African-Americans in Wisconsin to the "harshness of penalties" in the state, as well as its policies and disparities in access to legal assistance, compared with other states.



"The fact that one unemployment number is higher in one state than another tells you nothing of the causal role of the state's policies, culture, history or broader economic fundamentals," Durlauf said.

"The phrasing implies that the same person who lives in Wisconsin would be better off in another state. The wording ascribes causality, which implies that state does something to those people," he said.

In publishing its methodology, the website said it focused on divergences in the socioeconomic data and not whether the individual metrics themselves were among the best or worst in the 50 states.

"We ranked the size of the race gap for each measure, with the largest gap receiving the worst score," it said. It excluded any state where black residents composed less than 5% of the population.

Typical black Wisconsin households earned roughly half the white median household income, a wider income gap than in the majority of states, the website said. Wisconsin's black residents were also far less likely than white residents to have health insurance, with a gap of more than 30 percentage points.

"Black Americans in Wisconsin are at a much greater risk of death than their white peers as well, which could be due in part to poor health coverage," it said.

Black Wisconsin residents were also nearly 10 times more likely than white residents to go to prison. Black children in Wisconsin had worse educational outcomes than both their white classmates and their black peers in other states.

The 10 worst states were distributed across the nation, although the Midwest had more than its share of low-ranking states besides Wisconsin. Also on the list: Minnesota was second-worst, followed by Rhode Island, third-worst; Illinois, fourth-worst; Pennsylvania, fifth-worst; Michigan, sixth-worst; Connecticut, seventh-worst; New Jersey, eighth-worst; Kansas, ninth-worst; Arkansas, 10th-worst.

The website's editor, Douglas McIntyre, said the study was carried out by the site's full-time staffers. The results were first published last week and picked up on other online news aggregation sites likeTheHuffingtonPost.com and MSN.com.

The report noted that racial disparities exist in all parts of the United States, with black Americans on average earning 62 cents for every dollar earned by white Americans. "Black Americans are also twice as likely to be unemployed and considerably more likely to live in poverty," it said.

 

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[Flywin Lannister]

Another officer involved shooting . I believe there was a peace rally going on, and cops egged them on and a riot ensued.

This is completely false, unless of course, what the media feeding is completely false.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Ok so from what is out there online (if it wasn't clear in the thread):

It appears that the cop who killed him was black.
And the body cam appears to show that the victim was 'raising a gun' and would not put his gun away or down.



This is the video of the Mayor saying there was 'no doubt' the victim was armed, based on body cam video. He does admit that he did not see the video, he saw a still from the video. So basically he only knows he 'had a gun in his hand'... Not good, but not reason to kill somebody. Taser. Fall back and come up with a strategy.. Get a negotiator in there.. there were other options... BUT that said, I have not seen the video.

This is not to justify or minimize the killings of anybody. Why can't they taser somebody in THIS moment?

I think the fact that the cop is black, does change the conversation since normally it is white cops doing the killing - even though it's not unheard of for black cops to have an even bigger hate for black youths they perceive as criminal.. that self hate is no joke.

Then again we weren't in that situation and perhaps if someone pulls a gun on us we don't even think and just shoot without asking. A lot -too much- is still unclear. The media can report ANYTHING and twist ANYTHING.

Fact is another black, young man was killed by the police. And at this point - they can't expect people to stay calm anymore.. even if it WAS a black police officer.

Thoughts are of course with the family of the shooting victim at this time.

 

[Professor Mac]

So it a black cop patrolling a black neighborhood stopping a black guy with a criminal record who was running and wouldnt put down his gun? wtf, i mean cmon.

Give it a rest and save your energy for a real victim

 

[KOohbt]

Funny alot of so called black posters claiming the negros are rioting for a criminal but white people riot when theyre favorite sport teams lose no one has any say about that shyt. there's a white riot in europe & france fukking quiet as a church mouse!!!

Black guy with stolen gun gets killed by black cop, he must have deserved it, he was breaking the law... Let me tell you a$$holes something this level of fatal justice at the hands of law enforcement is a fukking disgusting piece of selective enforcement... There's been plenty of white criminals that have done worse, that deserved to die or get shot resisting but law enforcement ALWAYS like 90% of the fukking time use restraint in dealing with white criminals...

Black guys little record they're fukking superthugs and they deserve to die.... Arent we innocent until proven fukking guilty in a court of law?!

What gives you the right to arbitrability extinguish human life when your on the sidelines... See there's a blatant double standard in our entire society and im frankly fukking sick of it.

I hate y'all ignorant ass nikkas on the coli talking about he had a gun he deserved to get shot. isnt milwaukee a fukking OPEN CARRY state?!!?

How do you know that gun was supposedly stolen? Cops have lied, the media has lied? why jump to the automatic assumption the "BLACK" guy is guilty because he ran?!

Breh. You do realize there are white supremacists on this site in this thread blatantly calling for black genocide.


That's not the scary part


The scary part is that it's NORMAL to have people openly talk about black genocide casually

We live in a white supremacist country full of people who are too cowardly to commit genocide but will egg on those who will.

Remember brehs this is sheriff Clark's jurisdiction

 

[Piffery]

This is a social media meme argument. There are white criminals who get shot dead by police and there are black criminals who get taken in alive, not every black criminal is getting shot dead on sight, if that were the case the prison population wouldn't be what it is now. Does this mean there isn't a problem with racial bias when it comes to police shootings? NO, but like I said, each and every incident should be examined on it's own merits.

Some of you think you're living in some type of anarchy, the truth of the matter is that you really aren't ready for anarchy. That's why cheering on assaulting innocent people over some dumb shyt comes off as mad cowardly. As flawed as our system is, there is some type of semblance of law and order, whether you want to admit it or not. If the families of young, budding criminals are unable to reel them in and put them on the right path it isn't the responsibility of greater society to show sympathy, our responsibility, no matter what race WE are, is to make sure they are kept off the streets, no matter what race THEY are.

There are millions of black Americans in this country, which means there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with black each year.
There are millions of white people in this country and the same thing goes for them.
And as we know, black people are undeniably disproportionately killed by police.
But here are the facts, these are the numbers:
"Almost 1,200 people, mostly minorities, killed by US cops in 2015. US law enforcement officers killed up to 1,199 people last year, the majority of whom were 'people of color'. According to the open-source reporting project Killed by Police, 574of those who died were minorities, 511 were white, and 107 undetermined."
This is not a fukking genocide, this is not cops going door to door and slaughtering each Tamir Rice they see, this is less black people than live in my city killed among (according to the 2009 census) 38,093,725 black Americans, if you think that's a genocide not only are you wrong, but you're dangerously paranoid and should probably go seek professional help.
And that also means, thousands upon thousands of innocent black Americans and criminals, aren't shot by the police each year, so as you said, every time someone comes up and says "b-but white people with guns arent killed" it's a irritating meme argument as you can find the same with black people and vice versa.
According to thecoli, I should be ready to buck up and go slaughtering police; and don't get me wrong, I fully acknowledge how corrupt and broken the police and judicial system is in the US and the millions of minority lives it's ruined up to this day.
But every day I go out there's no reason for me to fear being shot by police, i'm more afraid of a statistically unlikely home invasion than that, and my personal experiences with police whether that's me and other black friends/my sister being caught on a school roof and being let go by a white cop, calling the police when a black friends stepdad was assaulting him, being called to our home during conflict, arresting people related to me, etc etc I haven't been mistreated by them (though I don't believe that means they're in theory there to help me and people should always be wary of their interactions with police and record if possible) once, yet people here tell me if you're black and call the police you 're just going to be assaulted or killed or mistreated or something no matter what.
And a lot the cops in my hometown had a good relationship with all the black and Hispanic youth, even those who were in an out of juvie/probation, and the campus cops helped a lot of people and did cool things with us, and the cops who did DARE back in elementary school had good relationships with us as we went through our school years, and so on so forth.
Hell even the people I know personally who were in and out of jail or were mistreated by the police aren't taking coli stances on them.
Me getting up and pretending to be Michael Xavier Johnson crying for war would be totally dishonest with my actual experiences, nor is anyone crying for that on this site actually ready for it (like you said).
Edit:These posters don't want to give an honest/logical look at the situation, they just look at the world through black and white lenses because doing so creates a victim complex which they can use to strengthen their extremism and ad moral justification to their cause as well as shame others for not being on board because they see at as the epitome of a life or death(extermination) situation.
It's pure tribalism.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

So it a black cop patrolling a black neighborhood stopping a black guy with a criminal record who was running and wouldnt put down his gun? wtf, i mean cmon.

Give it a rest and save your energy for a real victim

It's 2016 breh, EVERYBODY A VICTIM

 

[Bernie Madoff]

There are millions of black Americans in this country, which means there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with black each year.
There are millions of white people in this country and the same thing goes for them.
And as we know, black people are undeniably disproportionately killed by police.
But here are the facts, these are the numbers:
"Almost 1,200 people, mostly minorities, killed by US cops in 2015. US law enforcement officers killed up to 1,199 people last year, the majority of whom were 'people of color'. According to the open-source reporting project Killed by Police, 574of those who died were minorities, 511 were white, and 107 undetermined."
This is not a fukking genocide, this is not cops going door to door and slaughtering each Tamir Rice they see, this is less black people than live in my city killed among (according to the 2009 census) 38,093,725 black Americans, if you think that's a genocide not only are you wrong, but you're dangerously paranoid and should probably go seek professional help.
And that also means, thousands upon thousands of innocent black Americans and criminals, aren't shot by the police each year, so as you said, every time someone comes up and says "b-but white people with guns arent killed" it's a irritating meme argument as you can find the same with black people and vice versa.
According to thecoli, I should be ready to buck up and go slaughtering police; and don't get me wrong, I fully acknowledge how corrupt and broken the police and judicial system is in the US and the millions of minority lives it's ruined up to this day.
But every day I go out there's no reason for me to fear being shot by police, i'm more afraid of a statistically unlikely home invasion than that, and my personal experiences with police whether that's me and other black friends/my sister being caught on a school roof and being let go by a white cop, calling the police when a black friends stepdad was assaulting him, being called to our home during conflict, arresting people related to me, etc etc I haven't been mistreated by them (though I don't believe that means they're in theory there to help me and people should always be wary of their interactions with police and record if possible) once, yet people here tell me if you're black and call the police you 're just going to be assaulted or killed or mistreated or something no matter what.
And a lot the cops in my hometown had a good relationship with all the black and Hispanic youth, even those who were in an out of juvie/probation, and the campus cops helped a lot of people and did cool things with us, and the cops who did DARE back in elementary school had good relationships with us as we went through our school years, and so on so forth.
Hell even the people I know personally who were in and out of jail or were mistreated by the police aren't taking coli stances on them.
Me getting up and pretending to be Michael Xavier Johnson crying for war would be totally dishonest with my actual experiences, nor is anyone crying for that on this site actually ready for it (like you said).
Edit:These posters don't want to give an honest/logical look at the situation, they just look at the world through black and white lenses because doing so creates a victim complex which they can use to strengthen their extremism and ad moral justification to their cause as well as shame others for not being on board because they see at as the epitome of a life or death(extermination) situation.
It's pure tribalism.

That has to do with racism and oppression created over decades dummy. You think the police are going to kill more people in low economic areas that the government created over decades of systematic racism or the suburbs? All that shyt you typed and none of it made sense on any logical level. You're doomed in life, so I'm sure you'll miss this message as well. Get that hate out ya heart playa, i know it's tough cause you're a loser, always unpopular with no friends... but that's not because you black breh, you just a fukking loser.

 

[Piffery]

That has to do with racism and oppression created over decades dummy. You think the police are going to kill more people in low economic areas that the government created over decades of systematic racism or the suburbs? All that shyt you typed and none of it made sense on any logical level. You're doomed in life, so I'm sure you'll miss this message as well. Get that hate out ya heart playa, i know it's tough cause you're a loser, always unpopular with no friends... but that's not because you black breh, you just a fukking loser.

Ummmm, what does this have to do with my post?
And didn't I say that black Americans are disproportionately murdered by police and that the justice system is geared against minorities?
I'm not actually sure what you're trying to refute in my post as I agree with you, and have made many posts on this site saying the same thing you just did.
Can you quote the point of disagreement?

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Ummmm, what does this have to do with my post?
And didn't I say that black Americans are disproportionately murdered by police and that the justice system is geared against minorities?
I'm not actually sure what you're trying to refute in my post as I agree with you, and have made many posts on this site saying the same thing you just did.
Can you quote the point of disagreement?

everything you dumb motherfukker rofl

the government created high crime ghettos with high minority rates, obviously police killings are going to be higher in those areas because more criminals exist in those areas... You know why more criminals exist in those areas? Not because they're black, but because of drugs the government introduced into those areas in the 80's breaking the family structure. You see there's levels to this shyt, but you want to post pro black racist bullshyt online, and blm wants to burn a car...


fukk outta here weirdo!

 

[newarkhiphop]

Not getting much play at all.


Probably made a value judgment on the life of the victim .

RIP.

I live in medium size town, in a boring ass Midwest, super white state and it was the first thing on the local news channel

 

[Ronnie Lott]

So it a black cop patrolling a black neighborhood stopping a black guy with a criminal record who was running and wouldnt put down his gun? wtf, i mean cmon.

Give it a rest and save your energy for a real victim

Could you please provide proof of the black guy having a criminal record

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

may the spirit of Dorner and Johnson possess more soldiers in the fight

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Could you please provide proof of the black guy having a criminal record

Let me google that for you