It's Dark and Hell is Cold : 2015 Cleveland Browns Thread
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Remy LeBreh
Linconia
Y'all nikkas catch this on espn cleveland yesterday?
"Hey Tony: I am considerably worried about our defense, particularly our run defense. It has been since 2011 when Mike Pettine was responsible for a good rushing defense. Ever since then, he has ranked 32 (this year), 32 (last year), 28 (Bills), and 26 (Jets). Not only that but it’s not like when he left those teams the defenses suffered. The Bills defense is actually better and when he left the Jets their defensive rank improved by one. Do you think we may be overrating Pettine as this defense genius?
--Eliot, Cape Coral, FL
Hey Eliot: Your facts are hard to dispute."
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"Hey Tony: I am considerably worried about our defense, particularly our run defense. It has been since 2011 when Mike Pettine was responsible for a good rushing defense. Ever since then, he has ranked 32 (this year), 32 (last year), 28 (Bills), and 26 (Jets). Not only that but it’s not like when he left those teams the defenses suffered. The Bills defense is actually better and when he left the Jets their defensive rank improved by one. Do you think we may be overrating Pettine as this defense genius?
--Eliot, Cape Coral, FL
Hey Eliot: Your facts are hard to dispute."
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QuarterCenturyLegend
Stoopid Life
Don't speak to me until Ohio State plays. I'm looking at this gun, and this gun is looking at me. Russian Roulette doesn't sound so bad until you're pulling the trigger ad nauseam until the bullet comes. Not a game anymore. Basically the effort our defense showed today. Josh didn't play bad until the last play. Man, I am fukking pissed and I'm. ... I don't know, man. I can't take much more
Remy LeBreh
Linconia
Cavs media day tomorrow
QuarterCenturyLegend
Stoopid Life
O line was so great. Man, I am dead serious. I'll be around Saturday, possibly. I'm just not able to function right now. I can talk shyt at a later date, just not now. I need to get right
levitate
I love you, you know.
At least the Ravens lost...
farmer has to go
the way he's devaluing the offensive skill positions is sickening.
we lost to the jets and the raiders because they have superior weapons on offense. besides the point that he's blown way too many picks. his free agent signings have also been under par. if we didn't have gordon coming back next year I would be in despair.
the way farmer wants to build this team is not working because he can't identify the talent to make us better. and the coaching is extremely underwhelming as well. there's no reason with as much talent we have on the line they should be struggling like this. 3 first round picks of the last two years are on the bench for us right now
how are we supposed to get better if we keep blowing picks like this
shelton was a no brainer so I'm not giving credit for that.
the way he's devaluing the offensive skill positions is sickening. we lost to the jets and the raiders because they have superior weapons on offense. besides the point that he's blown way too many picks. his free agent signings have also been under par. if we didn't have gordon coming back next year I would be in despair.
the way farmer wants to build this team is not working because he can't identify the talent to make us better. and the coaching is extremely underwhelming as well. there's no reason with as much talent we have on the line they should be struggling like this. 3 first round picks of the last two years are on the bench for us right now
how are we supposed to get better if we keep blowing picks like this
shelton was a no brainer so I'm not giving credit for that.
farmer has to go
we lost to the jets and the raiders because they have superior weapons on offense. besides the point that he's blown way too many picks. his free agent signings have also been under par. if we didn't have gordon coming back next year I would be in despair.
the way farmer wants to build this team is not working because he can't identify the talent to make us better. and the coaching is extremely underwhelming as well. there's no reason with as much talent we have on the line they should be struggling like this. 3 first round picks of the last two years are on the bench for us right now
how are we supposed to get better if we keep blowing picks like this
shelton was a no brainer so I'm not giving credit for that.
I hear you breh but it doesn't matter.
You can fire Farmer....you can fire Pettine.
It won't matter.
This organization stinks.
Is it me or is Joe Haden getting 
?
He can hold his own against mediocre receivers but when going up against the Brandon Marshall's and Amari Cooper's of the world he gets torched.
Also, this team has so many holes in it. I have no idea how they are gonna fix it. Alex Mack will leave in FA this summer and we have to rely on Erving who has barely played. That probably makes our OLine worse. We need a playmaker at DE (Mingo is
). And its been repeated a million times but Farmer needs to go just based on the fact that he can't draft a top prospect WR or TE.
And WTF is up with our run defense and why does it never improve? Its absolutely terrible.
?He can hold his own against mediocre receivers but when going up against the Brandon Marshall's and Amari Cooper's of the world he gets torched.
Also, this team has so many holes in it. I have no idea how they are gonna fix it. Alex Mack will leave in FA this summer and we have to rely on Erving who has barely played. That probably makes our OLine worse. We need a playmaker at DE (Mingo is
). And its been repeated a million times but Farmer needs to go just based on the fact that he can't draft a top prospect WR or TE. And WTF is up with our run defense and why does it never improve? Its absolutely terrible.
At this point it's probably the scheme. Pettine defenses have consistently been close to or been dead last in rush Defense wherever he's beenIs it me or is Joe Haden getting
He can hold his own against mediocre receivers but when going up against the Brandon Marshall's and Amari Cooper's of the world he gets torched.
Also, this team has so many holes in it. I have no idea how they are gonna fix it. Alex Mack will leave in FA this summer and we have to rely on Erving who has barely played. That probably makes our OLine worse. We need a playmaker at DE (Mingo is
And WTF is up with our run defense and why does it never improve? Its absolutely terrible.
Omar Little
It’s all in the Game Yo
Should've just stuck with Johnny,Pettine
Remy LeBreh
Linconia
TMZ
Getty
EXCLUSIVE
CLEVELAND BROWNS PLAYERS
FURIOUS OVER JOHNNY MANZIEL
'PUT HIM IN THE DAMN GAME'
9/29/15 3:45 AM PST
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It's not just the Browns fans who want Johnny Manziel start at QB -- several Cleveland players are also calling for #2 ... telling TMZ Sports it's "f**ked up" he's still riding the bench.
We spoke with 3 starting players on the Browns offense -- all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity -- who tell us the team wants Manziel under center on Sunday ... not Josh McCown.
One player who admits he's extremely frustrated with the QB situation says, "I love both Johnny and Josh but its f**ked up when you have Johnny come in and play well and has proven to the team that he is the right person for the job."
"It’s frustrating to him and us when you sit a player down when he is playing well. Coach has got to understand you are messing up the chemistry and timing with players and its f**ked up."
Another player tells us, "The team plays better when [Manziel] is in the game. I play better when he plays."
"You can’t get better unless you play. We won when he played and coach has got to trust him like he trusts Josh."
A 3rd player added, "When Johnny in the game it puts the defense on edge. He doesn’t just sit in the pocket, he makes plays. Coach has got to make the change now."
As for McCown, now that's he's 0-2 as the starter ... he says he "understands" why fans want to see Manziel, but insists he's still the right man for the job. Now, it seems he's gonna have to convince his teammates too.