Its crazy how there's only 1 universally accepted classic album from a female rapper,

[The Devil's Advocate]

Do you know how many chix were spittin' "that thing" bar for bar in parties when that shyt dropped?


"Baby girl, respect is just a minimum Niccas fukked up and you still defending 'em "

That was then. As you said "when it dropped"

Classic means bytches should still be spitting that right now today. nikkas still running around spitting old biggie, PAC, jay, snoop off their classics

Nobody running around spitting no classic lauryn shyt. You give me 1-3 songs don't make a classic album. What about the other 15 songs

 

[smokeurobinson]

Classic means bytches should still be spitting that right now today. nikkas still running around spitting old biggie, PAC, jay, snoop off their classics

This statement is false.

 

[smokeurobinson]

Y'all just pulling shyt out your ass now...most of the albums you're naming are nowhere near classic.

Dudes is naming albums that never get mentioned amongst classics but all of a sudden now these mediocre albums like Rah Digga's 1st and Rage's 1st are all of a sudden classics.

Real phoney shyt.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

La Bella Mafia is a classic to me

 

[smokeurobinson]

La Bella Mafia is a classic to me

That was her best album out of all of them.

Hands down, Kim didn't get it right till she dropped that 3rd album.

Thats y it looks off when dudes mention her 1st as if it was her best album.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

That was her best album out of all of them.

Hands down, Kim didn't get it right till she dropped that 3rd album.

Thats y it looks off when dudes mention her 1st as if it was her best album.

I haven't heard her 3rd album tbh but her first album has some serious bangers on it. These two are undeniable classics






Biggies multisyllabic rhyme schemes and patterns were all over that bytch though

 

[big bun]

I haven't heard her 3rd album tbh but her first album has some serious bangers on it. These two are undeniable classics






Biggies multisyllabic rhyme schemes and patterns were all over that bytch though

What about the rest of the album?

 

[daze23]

personal classic was the Isis album



RIP Professor X

 

[CHICAGOrilla]

Claim a r n b album is a top hip hop album, brehs

 

[JustCKing]

That's the thing...it really doesn't. In what reality do you live in where Miseducation is ever in the same conversation with any of those albums? I couldn't spit you a 16 off that shyt and I bought played the album many times. Out of all the singles there was like one...rap verse on "Doo Wop"?[/QUOTE]

You've never heard the song then:

Doo Wop (That Thing) Lyrics
[Intro]
Yo, remember back on the boogie when cats used to harmonize like
Yo, my men and my women
Don't forget about the deen, Sirat al-Mustaqeem
Yo, it's about a thing
If ya feel real good wave your hands in the air
And lick two shots in the atmosphere!

[Verse 1]
It's been three weeks since you were looking for your friend
The one you let hit it and never called you again
'Member when he told you he was 'bout the Benjamins?
You act like you ain't hear him, then give him a little trim
To begin, how you think you're really gon' pretend
Like you wasn't down and you called him again?
Plus, when you give it up so easy you ain't even foolin' him
If you did it then, then you'd probably fukk again
Talking out your neck, sayin' you're a Christian
A Muslim, sleeping with the jinn
Now that was the sin that did Jezebel in
Who you gon' tell when the repercussions spin?
Showing off your ass cause you're thinking it's a trend
Girlfriend, let me break it down for you again
You know I only say it cause I'm truly genuine
Don't be a hard rock when you really are a gem
Baby girl, respect is just a minimum
nikkas fukked up and you still defending 'em
Now, Lauryn is only human
Don't think I haven't been through the same predicament
Let it sit inside your head like a million women in Philly, Penn
It's silly when girls sell their souls because it's in
Look at where you be in, hair weaves like Europeans
Fake nails done by Koreans
Come again
[Hook]
Guys you know you'd better watch out
Some girls, some girls are only about
That thing, that thing, that thing
That thing, that thing, that thing

[Verse 2]
The second verse is dedicated to the men
More concerned with his rims and his Timbs than his women
Him and his men, come in the club like hooligans
Don't care who they offend, poppin' yang (Like you got yen!)
Let's stop pretend, the ones that pack pistols by they waist men
Cristal by the case men, still in they mother's basement
The pretty face men claiming that they did a bid men
Need to take care of they three or four kids
And they face a court case when the child support late
Money taking and heart breaking, now you wonder why women hate men
The sneaky, silent men
The punk, domestic violence men
Quick to shoot the semen, stop acting like boys and be men
How you gonna win when you ain't right within? (x3)
Come again

 

[JustCKing]

I think making that distinction is pretty important especially when you go beyond appreciating the album for it's own merit into sitting it next to rap albums the caliber of Ready To Die. The technicality of her coming from a Hip Hop group doesn't change the fact that she really released a pop/R&B album to a much wider demographic than she would have had if she had spent the majority of that album spitting. Had the album been mostly rap I doubt it would have been as acclaimed which is kind of unfair to the femcess who really went for theirs while catering to the rap demo.

This is false. None of the straight R&B songs from that album took off like the Rap songs. "Doo Wop" is the one that went #1 and catapulted the album to what it is. It features her spittin' and singing the chorus and doing the bridge. The single before that was "Lost Ones". I don't see how that's any different from a rapper that has a singer doing the bridge and the chorus. So it's not just a technicality. Miseducation is an album that is acclaimed for the rap verses as much as it is for the singing.

It's not unfair to the femcees who really went for theirs while catering to the rap demo especially since many of them Draked it. Salt N Pepa's biggest records are R&B heavy ("Shoop" and "What A Man"). It doesn't make them any less MC's as a female rapper who raps all their material.

 

[JustCKing]

Miseducation was NOT a classic album.

Album is a standard for one of the biggest albums to come out in 2016 and Miseducation dropped 18 years ago. It's a classic.

 

[Ashtrey]

It's a classic album but no female MC has dropped a classic rap album on the level of Chronic, Doggystyle, Cuban Linx, etc.

 

[JustCKing]

It's a classic album but no female MC has dropped a classic rap album on the level of Chronic, Doggystyle, Cuban Linx, etc.

You could argue that Miseducation is on that level. It's one of the greatest albums ever made from any genre. When she dropped that album it made noise all across the board. I remember The Source interviewing different rappers about what album they had, book they were reading etc. The only thing every rapper's response had in common is that they were bumping Miseducation.

 

[SunZoo]

This is false. None of the straight R&B songs from that album took off like the Rap songs. "Doo Wop" is the one that went #1 and catapulted the album to what it is. It features her spittin' and singing the chorus and doing the bridge. The single before that was "Lost Ones". I don't see how that's any different from a rapper that has a singer doing the bridge and the chorus. So it's not just a technicality. Miseducation is an album that is acclaimed for the rap verses as much as it is for the singing.

The three official singles from that album are Doo Wop, Everything is everything and Ex Factor, Doo wop is the closest thing to a rap song out of those three.

It's not unfair to the femcees who really went for theirs while catering to the rap demo especially since many of them Draked it. Salt N Pepa's biggest records are R&B heavy ("Shoop" and "What A Man"). It doesn't make them any less MC's as a female rapper who raps all their material.

She' "Draked" it as well, which is why she got sued and didn't drop another album once she alienated her team.

And the demo matters here because the success and appeal of the album outside of the rap demo is really the only thing that puts it in the conversation we are having. We aren't discussing the quality of the raps/rap songs on this record, we are discussing it's impact and acclaim, most of which were made possible by not really making a fukking rap album in the first place.

The majority of the songs on the album weren't rap, nor were the best songs...it transcended rap music...not because it was especially innovative but because it wasn't really a rap album and a lot of props that it got hinged on that. Doesn't change the fact that it was a great album but it does not belong, and has not ever been in the conversation with albums like "The Chronic".

The absolute closest thing to a classic rap album by a female MC actually dropping and competing with it's contemporaries would either be Hardcore or MAYBE Foxy's first album. You rattle off a list of the albums that dropped the year those did and they fit right in.