It’s crazy how Roman killed the WWE

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And you clearly don't understand how the wrestling business, capitalism, or "entitlement" works

They don't watch, breh.
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Entitlement is thinking you deserve something for nothing, the WWE would not exist without the fans who've been paying customers for years. They invested their time and money.


If McDonalds starts selling a Mcshyt burger, and people who eat there go "Wow this is a really shytty sandwich, can you go back to selling us hamburgers" you'd say they're being entitled and should eat at burger king. :heh:


This is a terrible terrible analogy.

equating the product to a "shyt burger" would be in essence saying that they are intentionally trying to sabotage their own product (in the same way that McDonalds would understand that a "shyt burger" is not an attempt at creating an actual enticing food option). The problem with your analogy is that...some people enjoy the product...you don't (which is fine :yeshrug:). You are acting like they have empty arenas, no fans, no merch sales, no TV deals, and they are actually going under. That isn't the case. If you want to argue with me that the arenas are emptier than they were in the past...ok that's fair. But the WWE is a touring company that puts on 4 televised shows per week and several non-televised, and still manages to operate. So shyt burger to you... edible burger to the millions of people who continue to follow and financially support the product.

now,

entitled: believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

Fans saying "I don't like it...I don't like Roman...put Finn as the top guy" is entitlement. That fan (in that hypothetical) is specifying that he wants something different from a company that he neither: A - owns, B - is being forced to support. That person has an entitled perspective. Many of the fans of today - collectively - fit that mold. They think "I don't like Roman". Ok... well there are other people (kids women and some men) who think "I do like Roman". Yet, it's the neckbeards who feel that "Roman doesn't deserve it" who feel that their perspective should be valued higher than those of the other audience members who have different and conflicting opinions. That, my friend, is entitlement.



And you are equating losing fandom and ratings with capitalism when the WWE continues to set record profits :mjlol:

they just signed two huge TV contracts :mjlol:

They don't care about the neckbeards who cry about Roman because merch still sells :mjlol:


Some of you guys live in some fantasy world where "I know better than the execs of WWE" when they are the ones making money and you are the ones giving them your money/time/and attention. They aren't tuning into your coli posts for advice on how to run their multi billion dollar company :dead:
 

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The WWE machine has been going strong for years. It got to this kind of money because Rock and Austin broke records and rescued them from the failings of Shawn Michaels, Bret, Undertaker not getting it done against the nwo and Sting. That led to record breaking money that got to a billion dollars. So the model is there to always make money but the ratings is laughable and no tv deal today can change. They are free from criticism...they deserve it for lackluster, out of touch decisions, and acting like they arent capable of being progressive.
 

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Well let's not act like that's a WWE thing. New Japan has tampered with talent for a long ass time too, it's just how the business works :manny:

No one has 100% exclusive contracts but WWE, so not sure who you’re referring to
 

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The problem is how they've handled Brock and the Universal Title. They can't even book the show week-to-week properly, or even PPV-To-PPV properly because Brock has the title and all this other shyt feels pointless because of it. They need to sever ties with Brock and actually get back to booking proper title feuds.
 

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I’m gonna reiterate, i don’t think it’s Reigns fault and I don’t have any problems with him as a talent. In my opinion he was the best of the Shield. My whole point is that WWE’s reluctance to alter Reigns character or feature someone else when it was clear Reigns wasnt getting over is what has ultimately ruined the product (or at least their flagship show). Vince’s hubris will not allow him to change course with Reigns. I mean how many times are they gonna go with Reigns/Lesnar? WWE as a whole is trash and obviously that’s the brass’ fault, but I really think Vince has lost sight of the principles that made WWE what it was and that starts with his determination to make Reigns the guy.
 

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When the statement “Roman is talented” is made.

What talent does Roman actually has that say, Drew Mac or Joe or Lashley or Sami or etc guy don’t have?

Martha
That’s not how it works
Most talent doesn’t mean deserves the biggest push
His opinion is not Roman is not more talented than others but he isn’t that far off from others when it comes to skill and ability
The best actors don’t always make the most money or draw he most money. If the rock took a Daniel Day Lewis check for a movie he’d probably be pissed he fukk off yet ddl is superior to him as an actor beyond measurement

Roman is at worst top 12 talents in the Wwe at best top 6
 
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For all the people who want to blame fans for why WWE is currently garbage, why do none of the other major promotions experience the same backlash from fans? :jbhmm:

Super serving the fans they have instead of catering to the fans that’ll never spend money on them. What an idea.
 

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That’s not how it works
Most talent doesn’t mean deserves the biggest push
His opinion is not Roman is not more talented than others but he isn’t that far off from others when it comes to skill and ability
The best actors don’t always make the most money or draw he most money. If the rock took a Daniel Day Lewis check for a movie he’d probably be pissed he fukk off yet ddl is superior to him as an actor beyond measurement

Roman is at worst top 12 talents in the Wwe at best top 6

No... but thats not what I'm asking.

I get that.

To be more specific when people look at RR and say he's talented, like what is one or 2 things about him is he good at or stands out?

Like one thing about Rock, he was talented in talking and controlling the crowd
One thing about Angle, he was talented off being an Olympic athlete
Ricochet is talented with his athleticism and acrobatics.

Or take other sports, Curry is really talented with his shooting, Kyrie with his handles, Kawhie with his defense, Lebron with his passing...

And so on and so on.

Again, I dont think he is terrible, but I also never saw anything he did that was exceptional. That I could pinpoint out and be like "WOW"

Martha
 
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