It's been over a year. How do you think this war will end?

How will this war end?


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NZA

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just waiting for putin to croak of natural causes. i doubt his successor will give up the land they took either, but they probably wont actively fire on each other once putin is gone.
 

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Russia is going to grind down Ukraine.

Unless Nato/US sends in troops and escalates it doesn't look good for the Ukrainians.

As soon as the peace agreement is signed, the areas are annexed - it's gonna be a repeat of Afghanistan during the US occupation.
Bombings, assassinations, disruption, etc. Ukraine nationalists will make occupation very expensive to Russia. And the CIA will be there to assist.

The real question then becomes, will Russia try to grab more territory?


It's the same question that folks had after Russia annexed Crimea, and we know how that played out.

Still, grabbing up the rest of their protection zone only happens if Putin, or the old school Soviet hardliners are still running things, imo.
 

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Russia is going to grind down Ukraine.

Unless Nato/US sends in troops and escalates it doesn't look good for the Ukrainians.

As soon as the peace agreement is signed, the areas are annexed - it's gonna be a repeat of Afghanistan during the US occupation.
Bombings, assassinations, disruption, etc. Ukraine nationalists will make occupation very expensive to Russia. And the CIA will be there to assist.

The real question then becomes, will Russia try to grab more territory?

It's the same question that folks had after Russia annexed Crimea, and we know how that played out.

Still, grabbing up the rest of their protection zone only happens if Putin, or the old school Soviet hardliners are still running things, imo.

I doubt ukraine will agree to giving up any territory.
 

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I doubt ukraine will agree to giving up any territory.

The formal government is not going to fight to the last man standing. Zelensky won't commit every able bodied man and woman to die. That's suicide of the state.

How long will it take them to come to the bargaining table is the only question.

But after that, it will be post "victory" Iraq/Afghanistan.
 

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The formal government is not going to fight to the last man standing. Zelensky won't commit every able bodied man and woman to die. That's suicide of the state.

How long will it take them to come to the bargaining table is the only question.

But after that, it will be post "victory" Iraq/Afghanistan.
you say suicide of the state while russias state media has openly called for genocide and the soldiers leave behind mass graves.
 

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you say suicide of the state while russias state media has openly called for genocide and the soldiers leave behind mass graves.

So Russia is committing genocide.

Sure.

You think the NATO/US is going to send in the troops to stop a Ukrainian genocide? Yes/No
 

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So Russia is committing genocide.

Sure.

You think the NATO/US is going to send in the troops to stop a Ukrainian genocide? Yes/No
i don't think NATO troops need to be sent to ukraine, just their weapons.
 

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just waiting for putin to croak of natural causes. i doubt his successor will give up the land they took either, but they probably wont actively fire on each other once putin is gone.

China would own Europe if they started threatening Russias East. Russia can’t just swallow more land. They. Won’t. Stop.
 

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Active state of war and occupation/insurgency are far different. America had economic incentive to stay engaged, minimal political blowback, and minimal casualties.
Russia has negative economic incentive, maximum political blowback, and heavy losses.
I don’t think this can go on for 20 years.

Yeah I think Russia would literally run out of soldiers by that point :skip:
 
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