It Was Fun While It Lasted: The Official 2024 New York Yankees Off-Season Thread

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Apparently, neither was Gleyber (I completely understand), nor have Cabrera or Peraza shown anything to think they'd be better options either. Soto was also guilty of terrible fielding and base running. Let's not forget that part. His offensive contributions forced us to overlook that.

Again, not saying Arraez is ideal, but he does solve one major hole in our lineup, and it would benefit others in the lineup (Volpe, Dominguez, Judge, Bellinger). And if he's at least serviceable in the field, it'll work. Hell, bring Robinson Cano or Willie Randolph into camp to work with him in the field....

If not Arraez, what other available options do we realistically consider? I'm fairly sure that Kwan is not a realistic option for us. Would be nice tho. But why would Cleveland trade him, and to us of all teams?

Here's the ugly option that we really don't want, and I hope we won't do, Alex Bregman for 3B...... Solves our fielding and mid-lineup worries, but more than likely blows up the cap space for 2025 - 2027, and we still have no one trustworthy to lead off.

Jazz isn't a leadoff hitter. Volpe hasn't shown that he can handle the leadoff spot.

Another wasted year of Judge, and a lineup of HR/K or nothing outcome options on the way.... That's really worked well for us.
The goal shouldn't be to find a 2B, it should be to get a 3B, and move Jazz back to second.

Gleyber to Arraez is a lateral at best. But TBH, I think it's a downgrade. shyt, I'm not even sure if he's even better than Gavin Lux, and I don't want him either

I'm good on defensive liabilities, especially after signing a GB pitcher to $218 million.
 

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Apparently, neither was Gleyber (I completely understand), nor have Cabrera or Peraza shown anything to think they'd be better options either. Soto was also guilty of terrible fielding and base running. Let's not forget that part. His offensive contributions forced us to overlook that.

Again, not saying Arraez is ideal, but he does solve one major hole in our lineup, and it would benefit others in the lineup (Volpe, Dominguez, Judge, Bellinger). And if he's at least serviceable in the field, it'll work. Hell, bring Robinson Cano or Willie Randolph into camp to work with him in the field....

If not Arraez, what other available options do we realistically consider? I'm fairly sure that Kwan is not a realistic option for us. Would be nice tho. But why would Cleveland trade him, and to us of all teams?

Here's the ugly option that we really don't want, and I hope we won't do, Alex Bregman for 3B...... Solves our fielding and mid-lineup worries, but more than likely blows up the cap space for 2025 - 2027, and we still have no one trustworthy to lead off.

Jazz isn't a leadoff hitter. Volpe hasn't shown that he can handle the leadoff spot.

Another wasted year of Judge, and a lineup of HR/K or nothing outcome options on the way.... That's really worked well for us.
I know I’m a broken record bringing the 2009 lineup into the conversation, but here I go again. You know what made them so good? The depth/length of their lineup. Swisher was the only player in the 10 most frequently seen Yankee hitters to post an average under .270 (he hit .249 that year), but he made up for it with an OBP north of .370 while 7 of the 9 everyday hitters had at least a .360 OBP and then Cano was at .355 for the year too. No easy outs in the lineup. Last year’s Cleveland team even with their shoestring budget had 4 guys hit at least .263 and only 4 guys struck out even 90 times. Putting the ball in play is a winning formula and always will be. They’re gonna have to pick either a glove first or bat first player given this market and they need bats right now so judge doesn’t draw 150+ walks next year.
 

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The goal shouldn't be to find a 2B, it should be to get a 3B, and move Jazz back to second.

Gleyber to Arraez is a lateral at best. But TBH, I think it's a downgrade. shyt, I'm not even sure if he's even better than Gavin Lux, and I don't want him either

I'm good on defensive liabilities, especially after signing a GB pitcher to $218 million.
Agreed, but what are the realistic available options via FA or trade for either position?

Pickings are slim.... You really want Alex Bregman for multiple years???

Or via trade, what are you willing to give up and overpay, to get that quality 2B or 3B option, IF one appears? Spencer Jones, Luis Gil or Clarke Schmidt, Roderick Arias, and/or George Lombard Jr? I'd have zero problem parting with ANY 2-3 of these for the right players.
 

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I know I’m a broken record bringing the 2009 lineup into the conversation, but here I go again. You know what made them so good? The depth/length of their lineup. Swisher was the only player in the 10 most frequently seen Yankee hitters to post an average under .270 (he hit .249 that year), but he made up for it with an OBP north of .370 while 7 of the 9 everyday hitters had at least a .360 OBP and then Cano was at .355 for the year too. No easy outs in the lineup. Last year’s Cleveland team even with their shoestring budget had 4 guys hit at least .263 and only 4 guys struck out even 90 times. Putting the ball in play is a winning formula and always will be. They’re gonna have to pick either a glove first or bat first player given this market and they need bats right now so judge doesn’t draw 150+ walks next year.
Completely agree with this approach, but we've been a long way from this plan of attack for over a decade. Which is why we continue to fall short in the postseason against teams that actually have diverse offensive approaches.

We have to be able to consistently generate runs throughout the lineup, when HRs don't happen. Judge is gonna do Judge. We don't need 9 20+ HR types in the lineup, but 5-6 players with .340 - .350+ OBP will definitely generate wins. At present, we "may" have half of that on this team.
 

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I'd be fine with Arraez because this team has the situational awareness of a cone.

Sometimes you just need a single and this team tries to launch everything to Gerard Ave when a single will suffice. How many times do we get a runner on 2nd in extras yet you got hitters trying to hit it to Mars? At least Arraez knows just to serve it back to RF. The Yankees have made strides on defense, but the team really overrates their ability to score runs. Remember when the Yankees wanted to step their defense up and Cashman thought he could get away with Stephen Drew playing every day? Trying to win every game 2-1 will lead to Boone trying to manage every game like it's the playoffs which leads to a major strain on the staff and he'll have more games where he just punts the game before the first pitch.
 

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New York has always been an oversaturated market for regional sports networks—MSG, SNY, YES, etcetera—a consequence of the fact that most of its pro teams are owned individually. The Tsai family owns the Nets, Steve Cohen runs the Mets, the Steinbrenners control the Yankees, and Jon Ledecky has the Islanders. The one mammoth exception, of course, is Jim Dolan, who inherited the Knicks and Rangers, whose games populate his own MSG Network. Dolan, who is hardly a stranger to litigation and confrontation, is now leading MSG into an existential battle, all while his Knicks are enjoying their best season in a quarter-century.
Altice, the deeply troubled cable distributor, has dropped MSG Networks from its Optimum-branded New York system—despite (or, cynically, on account of) the Knicks’ success. Meanwhile, some influential analysts believe that New York, previously the last stable R.S.N. market, is ripe for consolidation.
MSG, after all, relies disproportionately on Altice, which accounts for about 33 percent of MSG Networks’ distribution revenue, per Guggenheim. A lot hangs on whether MSG Networks files for bankruptcy, as predicted by analysts from both Guggenheim and LightShed Partners. MSG Networks’ dispute with Altice is not your run-of-the-mill cable carriage beef. For starters, there’s no end in sight. The pay TV market is radically different than it was 13 years ago, when Time Warner Cable kept MSG Networks off of its systems for a month, only to be pressured to cut a deal after Jeremy Lin caught fire and led the Knicks on a six-game winning streak.
I called LightShed Partners’ Brandon Ross to get a sense of where things might be headed. He reiterated that Altice and MSG Networks are nowhere near an agreement, and he doubts the two will be able to find a middle ground. Altice’s latest offer, which puts MSG on a tier that carries a $55 surcharge, seems entirely unacceptable to Dolan, especially since it would trigger most-favored-nation clauses that give other distributors rights to the same terms. (MSG Networks’ deal with Charter, for example, is up at the end of this year.) “It would just not be a profitable business,” Ross said. “We’re at the point where something has to change.”
Dolan certainly doesn’t want to take MSG Networks into bankruptcy, Ross told me. But without an Altice deal, Ross doesn’t see a scenario where MSG Networks will be able to make its debt payments. “If you can’t make your interest payments, generally you’re just forced into bankruptcy, which would mean that the banks would take control of the asset,” Ross said. (While Sphere Entertainment owns MSG Networks, it carries its own capital structure and has its own debt consequences, as my partner Bill Cohan recently noted.)
It’s hard to predict what would happen in a bankruptcy, but Ross suggested that creditors would work with MSG Sports to lower license fee payments, thereby freeing the R.S.N. to merge with YES Network, which holds the rights to the Yankees and crosstown rival Nets. Ross’s rationale is influenced by the fact that a bankruptcy court allowed Diamond Sports Group, after 20 months in Chapter 11, to reject some money-losing contracts while keeping others. “This is an R.S.N. issue,” Ross said. “This is not the first R.S.N. to get into these problems. But some of the market dynamics in New York allowed this to last longer.”
MSG carries one of the highest costs of all R.S.N.s in the country, Ross said, due to the fact that both Cablevision—the former vessel of Jim’s father Charles Dolan’s generational wealth—and Verizon Fios competed bitterly for video subscribers in New York. “They were battling for broadband subscribers, so they would never drop content, because the value of the subscriber was too high in this broadband battle that they were having,” Ross said. “That competitive dynamic pushed the prices up. Now, the video bundle isn’t dragging along broadband. We’re in a totally different era.”
 
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Agreed, but what are the realistic available options via FA or trade for either position?

Pickings are slim.... You really want Alex Bregman for multiple years???

Or via trade, what are you willing to give up and overpay, to get that quality 2B or 3B option, IF one appears? Spencer Jones, Luis Gil or Clarke Schmidt, Roderick Arias, and/or George Lombard Jr? I'd have zero problem parting with ANY 2-3 of these for the right players.
Bregman may very well have to sign a 1-year, prove-it deal. He's the best option out of all them

I'm still on the trade for Bohm train too

I'm ok with Jazz at third if they can get a plus defender at second
 

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Bregman may very well have to sign a 1-year, prove-it deal. He's the best option out of all them

I'm still on the trade for Bohm train too

I'm ok with Jazz at third if they can get a plus defender at second
Bregman might end up at Fenway on a multi-year deal.....or in Philly or St Louis.

What's he got to prove? The Boras strategy is why he isn't signed yet. I doubt he needs to settle for a 1 yr deal. Now Pete Alonso? Probably.

What do you think the Phillies would want for Bohm? Martian, Schmidt, Jones, plus????? I'm not willing to even entertain that, and he's barely average at 3B defensively as well. I believe that he's not really on the market, but if a crazy overpay is on the table, the Phillies will listen.
 
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