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Kinda funny, made less money before i.t security but had more of a life lol but i wanted more money.. I am constantly grinding to get better but I'm running out juice. It requires constant learning while managers have it easy. At least from what I have noticed
 

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"Do the need full and please send over the resume" :gucci:

Then when you talk to those annoying fukkers they're telling you about (non existent) jobs on the other side of the country and asking questions they should already have the answer to. That's when you can even understand them plus you have to keep repeating yourself.

They're always sending me connection requests on LinkedIn and I just instantly block them.

I'm just pissed that a lot of good jobs have moved to India just because these greedy companies want to save a few dollars.
 

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Then when you talk to those annoying fukkers they're telling you about (non existent) jobs on the other side of the country and asking questions they should already have the answer to. That's when you can even understand them plus you have to keep repeating yourself.

They're always sending me connection requests on LinkedIn and I just instantly block them.

I'm just pissed that a lot of good jobs have moved to India just because these greedy companies want to save a few dollars.

Nothing but the truth. Aside from being bogus, the accents alone are enough to frustrate the entire process. If I get an email about a job from them, I'll just wait a day or so because a more reputable recruiter/company will get the listing and begin posting.
 

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Kinda funny, made less money before i.t security but had more of a life lol but i wanted more money.. I am constantly grinding to get better but I'm running out juice. It requires constant learning while managers have it easy. At least from what I have noticed

Let me ask you something. Do you feel its the company thats causing you to have less of a life or the actual security role?

The last time I felt I had no life was when i worked in a NOC. Those schedules had me fukked up :russ:
 

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Kinda funny, made less money before i.t security but had more of a life lol but i wanted more money.. I am constantly grinding to get better but I'm running out juice. It requires constant learning while managers have it easy. At least from what I have noticed
I'm looking to get out of cybersecurity asap. Cybersecurity at 99% of companies is a dumpster fire. Most won't even hire enough people to remotely handle the workload. It's not worth the slight increase in salary from other IT Disciplines.
 

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Kinda funny, made less money before i.t security but had more of a life lol but i wanted more money.. I am constantly grinding to get better but I'm running out juice. It requires constant learning while managers have it easy. At least from what I have noticed

I have been in that headspace:snoop:. We often put ourselves into this constant grind mode when the workplace doesnt really need us to do all that. At this point, I'm over 10 years deep in IT. Ain't no more cert that's going to make me change tax brackets:sitdown:. the fukk am I grinding for ? Only thing left is ownership:dame:

This pandemic really helped me in the sense of seeing what is truly there : we have to live life man. When you get to a certain level (Big certs, 6 figures in a lower cost city, your own company...), the grind has to somewhat slow down and be more timely. If we don't do that, we'll break down either mentally or physically.

Of course, I still get some certs here and there to maximize my income but I have to admit, the hunger is not what it used to be:to:. I've been grinding non stop since end of 2013, that's 7 fukking years of slowly grabbing key certs continuously:russell:.

And fukk them punk ass managers just cause :pacspit:.

I'm looking to get out of cybersecurity asap. Cybersecurity at 99% of companies is a dumpster fire. Most won't even hire enough people to remotely handle the workload. It's not worth the slight increase in salary from other IT Disciplines.

Word ! that's why I stay in advisory where you help customers get to a certain level of maturity in their stuff and that's it :usure:. People that are security managers, CISO or whatever are getting fired left and right for some bullshyt that ain't got shyt to do with them:gucci:.
 
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this shyt is impossible IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND AN ENTRY LEVEL CYBERSECURITY JOB IN NEW YORK CITY! HOW DO YOU EVEN ENTER THIS FIELD?!

NO I CANNOT RELOCATE

I am about to fukk around with one of those AWS Cloud Certs or something because this is not it. I am not going to even deal with the Security+ anymore because jobs ARE NOT HIRING ANYWAY!!!

it hit me this morning that I am going to be stuck working at this dead end job for the rest of my life, can’t believe this shyt, everything I have done was for nothing
 

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Let me ask you something. Do you feel its the company thats causing you to have less of a life or the actual security role?

The last time I felt I had no life was when i worked in a NOC. Those schedules had me fukked up :russ:


Well I work second shift but I get a huge bump in salary for it so I don't mind the schedule since we working from home. It's mainly me and the lack of trust I have in companies. I am on a hunt to knock out all the top certs.

I have zero trust in companies. I want to know whenever I put my resume out there, I will get hit on many jobs. I have seen way too much to ever feel comfortable. I also want to take advantage of my senior title. Literally saw someone with 20 years invested with the company get let go.



I'm looking to get out of cybersecurity asap. Cybersecurity at 99% of companies is a dumpster fire. Most won't even hire enough people to remotely handle the workload. It's not worth the slight increase in salary from other IT Disciplines.

I don't mind the field much. It pays the bills so I am pretty content overall. Ultimately, I gunning for the big cloud companies next year. Mainly I want to be closest to companies pushing new technologies. At 31, knowing how ageism work, I am at a crucial point. It is now and never so when ageism hits, I can leave the big boys and work for a smaller company.
 

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I have been in that headspace:snoop:. We often put ourselves into this constant grind mode when the workplace doesnt really need us to do all that. At this point, I'm over 10 years deep in IT. Ain't no more cert that's going to make me change tax brackets:sitdown:. the fukk am I grinding for ? Only thing left is ownership:dame:

This pandemic really helped me in the sense of seeing what is truly there : we have to live life man. When you get to a certain level (Big certs, 6 figures in a lower cost city, your own company...), the grind has to somewhat slow down and be more timely. If we don't do that, we'll break down either mentally or physically.

Of course, I still get some certs here and there to maximize my income but I have to admit, the hunger is not what it used to be:to:. I've been grinding non stop since end of 2013, that's 7 fukking years of slowly grabbing key certs continuously:russell:.

And fukk them punk ass managers just cause :pacspit:.



Word ! that's why I stay in advisory where you help customers get to a certain level of maturity in their stuff and that's it :usure:. People that are security managers, CISO or whatever are getting fired left and right for some bullshyt that ain't got shyt to do with them:gucci:.

Basically where I am at right now :beli:. The drive for key certs is to make sure no matter what b.s goes down, my resume can get hits anywhere but in the same token, I am running out of juice. The Pandemic being in the house all day has me thinking I spent too much time on work but at the same time, its necessary to make money.
 

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this shyt is impossible IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND AN ENTRY LEVEL CYBERSECURITY JOB IN NEW YORK CITY! HOW DO YOU EVEN ENTER THIS FIELD?!

NO I CANNOT RELOCATE

I am about to fukk around with one of those AWS Cloud Certs or something because this is not it. I am not going to even deal with the Security+ anymore because jobs ARE NOT HIRING ANYWAY!!!

it hit me this morning that I am going to be stuck working at this dead end job for the rest of my life, can’t believe this shyt, everything I have done was for nothing

lie lol
 

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this shyt is impossible IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND AN ENTRY LEVEL CYBERSECURITY JOB IN NEW YORK CITY! HOW DO YOU EVEN ENTER THIS FIELD?!

NO I CANNOT RELOCATE

I am about to fukk around with one of those AWS Cloud Certs or something because this is not it. I am not going to even deal with the Security+ anymore because jobs ARE NOT HIRING ANYWAY!!!

it hit me this morning that I am going to be stuck working at this dead end job for the rest of my life, can’t believe this shyt, everything I have done was for nothing
The only reason I was at to find a job in cybersecurity is working for the Feds as a contractor. They have by far the most made up job titles. So almost any job you do with them can be considered cybersecurity. If not for that I probably would've never gotten into the field. They gave me a job managing tickets for a SOC. But that was enough for me to finesse my way into the field.

I've got 7 years experience in cybersecurity yet still get turned down for the vast majority of jobs. So don't think just because you get into the field it's all gravy. These companies expect you have experience in everything cyber related along with half a dozen SANS certifications. Knowing that the training for a SANS course is 7K and the exam $1,400. I got one employer to pay for 2 of my SANS certs. And now if a company won't pay for these expensive cybersecurity certs I find one that will.

But having certs alone ain't gonna get you big money in cybersecurity. More than any other IT discipline you need hands on experience. That means scripting, coding, malware analysis, packet analysis etc. Plus supporting a million different security tools. Such as firewalls, antivirus, proxy, EDR or SIEM. And you need experience with practically all the major security vendor technologies. Because each company runs something different. If you know Cisco Firewalls and they run Palo Alto you'll get rehected. That's why cybersecurity people change jobs so often. I started out working with Cisco Firewalls first. But after Palo Alto started gaining market share I quit my job to work at a place using Palo Alto. Same thing with antivirus vendors when my previous company used Cylance. Well now Crowdstrike is the standard since everyone is moving to EDR. So you guess it I quit again because my company was too cheap or lazy to purchase the leading EDR tool. If you ain't willing to stay in the cutting edge of security technology. And learn every other IT groups job don't waste you're time trying to get into the field. But if you are let me know and I'll send you a blueprint on what I did to make it this far. But it requires a ton of work just to make 6 figures.
 

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Yeah I’m done. As we speak my clothes are so dirty they changed colors as I am working A 50 hour week job earning $250 weekly as a grown ass man. Grateful, but so mad at myself at the same time. I fukked up somewhere along the way I guess

fukk all this shyt I’m looking into something else I can use my degree for

The only reason I was at to find a job in cybersecurity is working for the Feds as a contractor. They have by far the most made up job titles. So almost any job you do with them can be considered cybersecurity. If not for that I probably would've never gotten into the field. They gave me a job managing tickets for a SOC. But that was enough for me to finesse my way into the field.

I've got 7 years experience in cybersecurity yet still get turned down for the vast majority of jobs. So don't think just because you get into the field it's all gravy. These companies expect you have experience in everything cyber related along with half a dozen SANS certifications. Knowing that the training for a SANS course is 7K and the exam $1,400. I got one employer to pay for 2 of my SANS certs. And now if a company won't pay for these expensive cybersecurity certs I find one that will.

But having certs alone ain't gonna get you big money in cybersecurity. More than any other IT discipline you need hands on experience. That means scripting, coding, malware analysis, packet analysis etc. Plus supporting a million different security tools. Such as firewalls, antivirus, proxy, EDR or SIEM. And you need experience with practically all the major security vendor technologies. Because each company runs something different. If you know Cisco Firewalls and they run Palo Alto you'll get rehected. That's why cybersecurity people change jobs so often. I started out working with Cisco Firewalls first. But after Palo Alto started gaining market share I quit my job to work at a place using Palo Alto. Same thing with antivirus vendors when my previous company used Cylance. Well now Crowdstrike is the standard since everyone is moving to EDR. So you guess it I quit again because my company was too cheap or lazy to purchase the leading EDR tool. If you ain't willing to stay in the cutting edge of security technology. And learn every other IT groups job don't waste you're time trying to get into the field. But if you are let me know and I'll send you a blueprint on what I did to make it this far. But it requires a ton of work just to make 6 figures.
 

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The only reason I was at to find a job in cybersecurity is working for the Feds as a contractor. They have by far the most made up job titles. So almost any job you do with them can be considered cybersecurity. If not for that I probably would've never gotten into the field. They gave me a job managing tickets for a SOC. But that was enough for me to finesse my way into the field.

I've got 7 years experience in cybersecurity yet still get turned down for the vast majority of jobs. So don't think just because you get into the field it's all gravy. These companies expect you have experience in everything cyber related along with half a dozen SANS certifications. Knowing that the training for a SANS course is 7K and the exam $1,400. I got one employer to pay for 2 of my SANS certs. And now if a company won't pay for these expensive cybersecurity certs I find one that will.

But having certs alone ain't gonna get you big money in cybersecurity. More than any other IT discipline you need hands on experience. That means scripting, coding, malware analysis, packet analysis etc. Plus supporting a million different security tools. Such as firewalls, antivirus, proxy, EDR or SIEM. And you need experience with practically all the major security vendor technologies. Because each company runs something different. If you know Cisco Firewalls and they run Palo Alto you'll get rehected. That's why cybersecurity people change jobs so often. I started out working with Cisco Firewalls first. But after Palo Alto started gaining market share I quit my job to work at a place using Palo Alto. Same thing with antivirus vendors when my previous company used Cylance. Well now Crowdstrike is the standard since everyone is moving to EDR. So you guess it I quit again because my company was too cheap or lazy to purchase the leading EDR tool. If you ain't willing to stay in the cutting edge of security technology. And learn every other IT groups job don't waste you're time trying to get into the field. But if you are let me know and I'll send you a blueprint on what I did to make it this far. But it requires a ton of work just to make 6 figures.

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