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he got the broad strokes right but “no looking back” is a major stretch considering they’ve fought multiple wars, still have inter ethnic violence, and you could argue there is still ethnic cleansing going on in both more so India... I’m pretty sure the only thing keeping India and Pakistan from fighting a major war is the bomb.



There has been no looking back in the regions where the ethnoreligious cleansing took place. You don't hear about Muslims forced from East Punjab talking about how they they were forced from their homes and want their land and shrines/historical cities back, and you don't hear Sikhs and Hindus forced from West Punjab talking about how they were forced from their homes and want their shrines/historical cities back.
 

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Sorry, but Kashmir did not have ethnoreligious cleansing and refugee resettlement like the regions I was talking about. People in Punjab, where most of the violence took place, have indeed moved on.

The situation in Kashmir was completely different: a Muslim majority with a Hindu ruler, so the state ended up going to India even though a majority of the population would have felt more comfortable in Pakistan.

I’m not 100% on India-Pakistan but I’m pretty sure the Kashmiris didn’t want to be apart of either was the point, but for security reasons it joined India until there was a ceasefire and there have been smaller battles ever since.



The same way Sri Lankan and Bangladesh became their own countries. Kashmir was technically independent until recently.

They drove out a bunch of Hindus through violence which is ethnic cleansing.
 

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So Hamas and Hezbollah are shooting rockets (backed by Iran) and you all want Israel to sit there and eat it.......


Nope
 

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So Hamas and Hezbollah are shooting rockets (backed by Iran) and you all want Israel to sit there and eat it.......


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Didn’t this battle start with Israel trying to evict Palestinians from a neighborhood?

Let’s start with leaving them alone while we finish getting this pandemic under control and maybe the rockets will stop?
 

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Didn’t this battle start with Israel trying to evict Palestinians from a neighborhood?

Let’s start with leaving them alone while we finish getting this pandemic under control and maybe the rockets will stop?


Did Israel start shooting rockets? no. It's not like they told them they couldn't live in the area.

There's other places for them to live.
 

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Did Israel start shooting rockets? no. It's not like they told them they couldn't live in the area.

There's other places for them to live.

Actually, Israel attacked them at the 3rd Holiest site in Islam, Israel attacked the during the Eid holiday, Israel has been evicting these people against international law for awhile now. It’s pretty telling how nonchalantly you talk about people being displaced from homes that have been in their lives for generations. Tell me, where are they supposed to move to exactly? Let me guess, Jordan? :shaq2:

You really need to look at how your ideas are totally dehumanizing towards Palestinians.
 

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I’m not 100% on India-Pakistan but I’m pretty sure the Kashmiris didn’t want to be apart of either was the point, but for security reasons it joined India until there was a ceasefire and there have been smaller battles ever since.



The same way Sri Lankan and Bangladesh became their own countries. Kashmir was technically independent until recently.

They drove out a bunch of Hindus through violence which is ethnic cleansing.

Before 1947, about 60% of "British India" was ruled directly by the British while the other 40% consisted of "princely states" of various sizes (some the size of cities, some fairly large). These states had their own rulers who were in charge of the state's internal affairs, but they were basically vassal states of the British Empire, and the British still managed their foreign affairs.

When British India was to be divided (because the Muslim leadership demanded their own country), the parts directly ruled by the British were to be divided along religious lines, and it was (to some extent) left to the rulers of the princely states to decided what they wanted to do. Here's what happened:

1. Of the parts ruled directly by the British, each province became a part of Pakistan if it had a Muslim majority and part of India otherwise. There were two exceptions: Punjab and Bengal, which had large non-Muslim minorities and religious populations that were unevenly distributed. It was decided that Punjab and Bengal would be partitioned. These partitions resulted in forced population exchanges brought about by ethnoreligious cleansing. In Bengal, there were still substantial minorities left on both sides of the border after the partition. East Bengal became part of Pakistan and later became Bangladesh after getting independence from Pakistan in 1971 (a lot of Hindu refugees who were left in East Bengal after 1947 moved to India by the end of the Bangladesh liberation war). In Punjab, virtually all Sikhs and Hindus in the western part were killed or escaped to the east (where they were resettled) and in virtually all Muslims in the eastern part were killed or escaped to the west (where they were resettled).

2. Basically all of the princely states decided to join India or Pakistan based on the obvious factors (religious composition and geographic proximity to India or Pakistan). The exception was Kashmir, which had a Hindu ruler and a Muslim majority. The ruler first wanted to remain independent, viewing joining either India or Pakistan as a bad choice, but eventually decided to join India. A war in 1947-48 resulted in a division of the territory, and disputes over this territory have basically fueled hostilities between Pakistan and India ever since.
 

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Did Israel start shooting rockets? no. It's not like they told them they couldn't live in the area.

There's other places for them to live.

You realize you are on a majority black forum who know or have family that were terrorized and told them their land/home wasn’t there’s and to get out? That despite being their for as many generations as everyone else, they don’t belong there.
 

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You realize you are on a majority black forum who know or have family that were terrorized and told them their land/home wasn’t there’s and to get out? That despite being their for as many generations as everyone else, they don’t belong there.


I'm black. I'm just telling you all the truth of the situation, which most of you can't handle. That's part of the reason black folks continue to get taken advantage of today. They think they know, but they are ignorant. Sit up there and get mad all you want. You should be mad at yourself for falling for the lies. That's where the responsibility comes in the end.
 

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Sorry, but Kashmir did not have ethnoreligious cleansing and refugee resettlement like the regions I was talking about. People in Punjab, where most of the violence took place, have indeed moved on.
this territory have basically fueled hostilities between Pakistan and India ever since.

So in this hostilities there hasn’t been people forced from their homes? Hindus and Muslims of the former British colony haven’t been fighting?
 

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I'm black. I'm just telling you all the truth of the situation, which most of you can't handle. That's part of the reason black folks continue to get taken advantage of today. They think they know, but they are ignorant. Sit up there and get mad all you want. You should be mad at yourself for falling for the lies.

For someone claiming to be Black and acting so enlightened you sound incredibly ignorant and the arrogance over it is pretty hilarious. I’d love to see how you act when you’re folks are oppressed, displaced, and kept under the constant threat of danger. Oh wait....:skip:

You ain’t got to lie about being Black, Craig. No one here is against Jewish people, just extremist Zionism.
 

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I'm black. I'm just telling you all the truth of the situation, which most of you can't handle. That's part of the reason black folks continue to get taken advantage of today. They think they know, but they are ignorant. Sit up there and get mad all you want. You should be mad at yourself for falling for the lies. That's where the responsibility comes in the end.
Man get out here about truth when you clinging to prophecy about coming wars.

But the “they have other places” to live didn’t apply to when Palestinians in the 40s said no to the Jews. Go somewhere else.

Okay cool.
 
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