Who said they were dumb?You see what the guy said at 8:35 Part 4 when they bulldoze the Syria/Iraq border?
''No to borders, and no Sykes-Picot Agreement''
Most people in the West would have no idea what they're talking about but these seemingly uneducated barbarians are making reference to events that occurred nearly 100 years ago. I'm sure there are people watching this in France and England like ''fukk they blaming us for''
People across the globe are haunted by the ghosts of colonialism. You might have forgotten about it but they have not.
And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped
And I never get to lay back
Cause I always got to worry 'bout the payback
Some buck that I roughed up way back
Coming back after all these years
"Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat!"That's the way it is
We just don't want another caliphate running shyt.
Trajan
Veteran
Come on man. ISIS fighters on the frontline do not strike me as the most academic of ppl.
Ya' Cousin Cleon
OG COUCH CORNER HUSTLA
A why in they videos got them lil shorties throwin' up "L's"? nikkas been bumpin that lil durk while catchin some infedels lackin.
The amount of time taking by U.S. media to promote every aspect and every ounce of videos, articles and stories about ISIS doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is coli kats haven't caught on.
Iraq Update: France Will Arm Kurds; More Refugees Leave Mountain
by BILL CHAPPELL
August 13, 2014 7:41 AM ET
Iraqi children from the Yazidi community wave to Kurdish Peshmerga forces near Dohuk, the Kurdish region of autonomous Kurdistan in Iraq, after they fled with their families their hometown which was attacked by Sunni militants from the Islamic state.
Ahmad Al-Rubaye/AFP/Getty Images
Citing the persecution of religious minorities in Iraq, France says it will deliver weapons to Kurds fighting against extremists the Islamic State. The news comes as thousands of Yazidi refugees have escaped their plight on Mount Sinjar, crossing into a Kurdish-controlled portion of Syria.
Here are the developments we're seeing today out of Iraq:
A first-hand account of the plight of the people trapped on the large mountain comes from reporter Jonathan Krohn of Britain's The Telegraph.
"The mountain I was on was lucky, because they had some water," Krohn says on today'sMorning Edition, "but that water was the water used for the sheep, it's disgusting and dirty. They'd been drinking that water, and relying on that."
Speaking from Erbil, Krohn adds that the mountain is arid and rocky – and that a good portion of it is covered in goat feces, from the local herds.
Thousands of Yazidis reportedly remain trapped on the mountain, isolated from an escape route.
France says it will deliver weapons to Iraq's Kurds "in the coming hours," moving quickly after the European Union voted to allow its members to arm the Kurds. That decision came in an emergency meeting of ambassadors Wednesday.
Like the U.S., Britain has been airdropping humanitarian aid to refugees on Mount Sinjar — "and the government recently agreed to transport Jordanian weapons to Kurdish fighters in Northern Iraq," NPR's Ari Shapiro reports, adding that the U.K. isn't sending its own weapons, and hasn't staged air strikes against the Islamic State.
Other countries that favor arming the Kurds include Italy and the Czech Republic, reports NPR's Sylvia Poggioli.
The political situation in Baghdad remains uncertain, but Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's hold on power seems to be slipping. The prime minister-designate, Haider al-Abadi, has the backing of the U.S., as well as both Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Iran's supreme leader says he hopes the appointment of a new Iraqi leader will "untie the knot" and lead to a new government, according to Reuters, citing a message posted on Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's website today.
The latest reports out of Iraq suggest Maliki might try to use the courts, rather than the military or sheer political numbers, to stay in office for a third term.
The U.S. is sending 130 more personnel to Iraq, to explore the "possibility of creating a safe haven or a safe corridor," as we reported last night, when Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced the move.
According to a tally by the AP, the new deployment means there are about 835 U.S. military and security personnel currently in Iraq.
by BILL CHAPPELL
August 13, 2014 7:41 AM ET
Iraqi children from the Yazidi community wave to Kurdish Peshmerga forces near Dohuk, the Kurdish region of autonomous Kurdistan in Iraq, after they fled with their families their hometown which was attacked by Sunni militants from the Islamic state.
Ahmad Al-Rubaye/AFP/Getty Images
Citing the persecution of religious minorities in Iraq, France says it will deliver weapons to Kurds fighting against extremists the Islamic State. The news comes as thousands of Yazidi refugees have escaped their plight on Mount Sinjar, crossing into a Kurdish-controlled portion of Syria.
Here are the developments we're seeing today out of Iraq:
A first-hand account of the plight of the people trapped on the large mountain comes from reporter Jonathan Krohn of Britain's The Telegraph.
"The mountain I was on was lucky, because they had some water," Krohn says on today'sMorning Edition, "but that water was the water used for the sheep, it's disgusting and dirty. They'd been drinking that water, and relying on that."
Speaking from Erbil, Krohn adds that the mountain is arid and rocky – and that a good portion of it is covered in goat feces, from the local herds.
Thousands of Yazidis reportedly remain trapped on the mountain, isolated from an escape route.
France says it will deliver weapons to Iraq's Kurds "in the coming hours," moving quickly after the European Union voted to allow its members to arm the Kurds. That decision came in an emergency meeting of ambassadors Wednesday.
Like the U.S., Britain has been airdropping humanitarian aid to refugees on Mount Sinjar — "and the government recently agreed to transport Jordanian weapons to Kurdish fighters in Northern Iraq," NPR's Ari Shapiro reports, adding that the U.K. isn't sending its own weapons, and hasn't staged air strikes against the Islamic State.
Other countries that favor arming the Kurds include Italy and the Czech Republic, reports NPR's Sylvia Poggioli.
The political situation in Baghdad remains uncertain, but Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's hold on power seems to be slipping. The prime minister-designate, Haider al-Abadi, has the backing of the U.S., as well as both Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Iran's supreme leader says he hopes the appointment of a new Iraqi leader will "untie the knot" and lead to a new government, according to Reuters, citing a message posted on Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's website today.
The latest reports out of Iraq suggest Maliki might try to use the courts, rather than the military or sheer political numbers, to stay in office for a third term.
The U.S. is sending 130 more personnel to Iraq, to explore the "possibility of creating a safe haven or a safe corridor," as we reported last night, when Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel announced the move.
According to a tally by the AP, the new deployment means there are about 835 U.S. military and security personnel currently in Iraq.
Belief
2014 AUGUST 12
tags: ISA, ISIS
by Ian Welsh
The rise of the ISA is a demonstration of the simple principle Napoleon once summarized as “The moral is to the physical as ten is to one.”
We have seen this for years, and the lesson is never learned by the West.
People who believe in what they’re fighting for, who are willing to both kill AND die are far better soldiers (and pretty much everything else) than those who aren’t.
This has been demonstrated, over and over again. The Chinese in Korea, the Vietnamese, Afghanistan, Hezbollah.
Moreover endless low-grade war is moronic. I once noted that Hezbollah was the perfect Darwinian organization; it had learned all the lessons Israel had taught. It was used to fighting while outgunned and outnumbered. It learned when not to use modern communications, to operate as a secret state, and so on, from Israel.
The modern form of electronic and surveillance warfare that the US practices is all very nice, and it is powerful, but the US and its proxies have been at war with the Islamic world for decades The West, basically, does not learn. Its militaries are not getting better (though many will claim they are), except in terms of equipment.
The militaries of those who fight the West, on the other hand, are improving by leaps and bounds. They move fast, give power to local commanders, isolate and destroy enemies, and regularly surprise their foes. The ISA, to an extraordinary degree, chooses where to fight and when. Of course they are winning. The only people in the Middle East who are almost certainly the ISA troops equal are Hezbollah (and I would expect, their betters. We’ll find out.)
When you fight wars as a superior power, you want to make them quick, over and out. An America which invaded Irak, stayed in Baghdad for only two months, and installed the Colonel of its choice as the new leader would still be a US which terrified the Islamic world.
The ISA, I suspect, has another great advantage over the militaries it faces.
It doesn’t use much in the way of electronic communication (those commanders who do, get dead.) This means that once units are given orders, the local commanders are free to execute those orders as they see fit, rather than being micromanaged by generals in the rear line. No single person, or even staff, can react as quickly as the commanders on the ground can, or as appropriately.
The sheer stupid of Israel, of America, of the West is stunning to behold. “Here, let us teach you how to beat us by engaging you in years of inconclusive warfare.”
The correct policy, from a hegemonic point-of-view (not what I would prefer), is to let them have their governments, let their elites rule, and if they get out of hand, knock them over. Maintain the fear. Let them get a bit soft and fat, let them have something to lose.
Failure to do this, and coddling of Saudi Arabian Wahhabism, has led to the rise of a truly barbaric form of militant Islam, which also happens to be startling effective on the battlefield.
Don’t teach people how to actually fight you. Don’t support barbaric regimes like Saudi Arabia’s in exporting their loathsome ideology. If you’re going to be an imperialist, learn how to actually play the game.
http://www.ianwelsh.net/belief/
2014 AUGUST 12
tags: ISA, ISIS
by Ian Welsh
The rise of the ISA is a demonstration of the simple principle Napoleon once summarized as “The moral is to the physical as ten is to one.”
We have seen this for years, and the lesson is never learned by the West.
People who believe in what they’re fighting for, who are willing to both kill AND die are far better soldiers (and pretty much everything else) than those who aren’t.
This has been demonstrated, over and over again. The Chinese in Korea, the Vietnamese, Afghanistan, Hezbollah.
Moreover endless low-grade war is moronic. I once noted that Hezbollah was the perfect Darwinian organization; it had learned all the lessons Israel had taught. It was used to fighting while outgunned and outnumbered. It learned when not to use modern communications, to operate as a secret state, and so on, from Israel.
The modern form of electronic and surveillance warfare that the US practices is all very nice, and it is powerful, but the US and its proxies have been at war with the Islamic world for decades The West, basically, does not learn. Its militaries are not getting better (though many will claim they are), except in terms of equipment.
The militaries of those who fight the West, on the other hand, are improving by leaps and bounds. They move fast, give power to local commanders, isolate and destroy enemies, and regularly surprise their foes. The ISA, to an extraordinary degree, chooses where to fight and when. Of course they are winning. The only people in the Middle East who are almost certainly the ISA troops equal are Hezbollah (and I would expect, their betters. We’ll find out.)
When you fight wars as a superior power, you want to make them quick, over and out. An America which invaded Irak, stayed in Baghdad for only two months, and installed the Colonel of its choice as the new leader would still be a US which terrified the Islamic world.
The ISA, I suspect, has another great advantage over the militaries it faces.
It doesn’t use much in the way of electronic communication (those commanders who do, get dead.) This means that once units are given orders, the local commanders are free to execute those orders as they see fit, rather than being micromanaged by generals in the rear line. No single person, or even staff, can react as quickly as the commanders on the ground can, or as appropriately.
The sheer stupid of Israel, of America, of the West is stunning to behold. “Here, let us teach you how to beat us by engaging you in years of inconclusive warfare.”
The correct policy, from a hegemonic point-of-view (not what I would prefer), is to let them have their governments, let their elites rule, and if they get out of hand, knock them over. Maintain the fear. Let them get a bit soft and fat, let them have something to lose.
Failure to do this, and coddling of Saudi Arabian Wahhabism, has led to the rise of a truly barbaric form of militant Islam, which also happens to be startling effective on the battlefield.
Don’t teach people how to actually fight you. Don’t support barbaric regimes like Saudi Arabia’s in exporting their loathsome ideology. If you’re going to be an imperialist, learn how to actually play the game.
http://www.ianwelsh.net/belief/
Trajan
Veteran
Islamic State seizes towns in Syria
Aint that a bytch? Fighting Assad for three years..the whole time these ISIS fukkers in the cut not really fighting the regime....then when both sides are fatigued, come thru and crush the building. All that money, resources and blood down the drain.
Other rebel groups must be
Aint that a bytch? Fighting Assad for three years..the whole time these ISIS fukkers in the cut not really fighting the regime....then when both sides are fatigued, come thru and crush the building. All that money, resources and blood down the drain.
Other rebel groups must be
All of it is....all the media attention to show ISIS on everything is showing how weak the American Mind is.
Reading through this thread....it's a damn shame the Coli isn't in charge of every country's foreign department. Yall are so confident that you've got all this shyt completely figured out based off your youtube research.
Oh, and Obama stans....looks like we've got boots on the ground now
change you can believe in
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/13/the_rise_of_isis_us_invasion
PATRICK COCKBURN:
Well, the Wahhabi ideology is very—has always been very similar to that of al-Qaeda. It’s a puritanical Islamic ideology, very bigoted. They’ve been blowing up shrines in Mosul. But the Saudi government has also been responsible for shrines being removed. In Bahrain in 2011, when a Saudi force entered to support the Bahraini government against a protest by the majority Shia community, they destroyed 20 to 30 Shia shrines and mosques. They bulldozed them. So, I think Wahhabism and the ideology of al-Qaeda and the ideology of ISIS today is very similar—Shia are regarded as heretics, so are Christians—that there isn’t that much difference. And this has had enormous impact, because it’s backed by Saudi Arabia’s enormous wealth. You know, if somebody wants to build a mosque in Bangladesh where it’s going to cost $30,000, where would he get $30,000? Normally it comes from Saudi Arabia or the Gulf. So I think one of the most important things that’s happening in the world over the last 50 years is the way in which mainstream Sunni Islam, which is the religion of about one-and-a-half billion people in the world, has been increasingly colored and taken over by the very intolerant Wahhabi faith.
Yeah, I mean, this is—you know, after 9/11, all the links of the hijackers—15 out of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. Bin Laden was part of the Saudi elite. U.S. investigations all showed that money had come from private donors in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf. But they always ignored this. And I think it’s one of the reasons that al-Qaeda survived, and its ideology, its ideas and so forth have now been transmuted into ISIS. You know, it is extraordinary that you had this war of terror, and hundreds of billions of dollars, trillions of dollars spent on it by the U.S. and other governments, and 13 years later that there’s an al-Qaeda-type organization, worse in many ways than al-Qaeda, more violent than al-Qaeda, which has taken over a great chunk of the Middle East. I mean, this is a tremendous failure, and very little attention is being given to it.
PATRICK COCKBURN:
Well, the Wahhabi ideology is very—has always been very similar to that of al-Qaeda. It’s a puritanical Islamic ideology, very bigoted. They’ve been blowing up shrines in Mosul. But the Saudi government has also been responsible for shrines being removed. In Bahrain in 2011, when a Saudi force entered to support the Bahraini government against a protest by the majority Shia community, they destroyed 20 to 30 Shia shrines and mosques. They bulldozed them. So, I think Wahhabism and the ideology of al-Qaeda and the ideology of ISIS today is very similar—Shia are regarded as heretics, so are Christians—that there isn’t that much difference. And this has had enormous impact, because it’s backed by Saudi Arabia’s enormous wealth. You know, if somebody wants to build a mosque in Bangladesh where it’s going to cost $30,000, where would he get $30,000? Normally it comes from Saudi Arabia or the Gulf. So I think one of the most important things that’s happening in the world over the last 50 years is the way in which mainstream Sunni Islam, which is the religion of about one-and-a-half billion people in the world, has been increasingly colored and taken over by the very intolerant Wahhabi faith.
Yeah, I mean, this is—you know, after 9/11, all the links of the hijackers—15 out of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. Bin Laden was part of the Saudi elite. U.S. investigations all showed that money had come from private donors in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf. But they always ignored this. And I think it’s one of the reasons that al-Qaeda survived, and its ideology, its ideas and so forth have now been transmuted into ISIS. You know, it is extraordinary that you had this war of terror, and hundreds of billions of dollars, trillions of dollars spent on it by the U.S. and other governments, and 13 years later that there’s an al-Qaeda-type organization, worse in many ways than al-Qaeda, more violent than al-Qaeda, which has taken over a great chunk of the Middle East. I mean, this is a tremendous failure, and very little attention is being given to it.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
can we talk about how 10,000 men at max are able to fight on 3 fronts? and maintain control over areas they hold?
something dont smell right, but ill let yall tell it
I thought it was pretty clear that the Sunni's dropped arms instead of defending their towns/cities in protest to not being paid by the central goverment? One of the old tribal heads was quoted as saying they would crush ISIS in 3 days flat if they wanted
Probably the same reason the Kurds are letting ISIS roll through near their territory, someone a few pages ago posted a video where the Kurdish politician referred to ISIS as their neighbours
Kurds have been getting shafted by the central government with the oil payments
Caliphate will return