Isiah Thomas declares Lebron is best ever

[DetroitEWarren]

He tried to chase chips by taking the easy route building super teams and still came up short. I don’t know what his stans are arguing about goat shyt for. They lack awareness

Super teams with 3 offensive players don't work and Miami barely worked because Bron ball limits scorers. Put Bron on a team with a Klay and somebody like Bridges and other role players and they would win more rings than a 3 superstar team. Steph or Klay could play with anyone, I don't think Bron fits with anyone.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Of course Zeek does.

He hates Mike. Always has. So he'll do and say whatever he can, passive aggressively for the next 20-30 years, like he has been, to take shots at MJ. It's what he's been doing since the late 80's. And this is why dudes didn't want him on the Dream Team. He moves too funny. And he's still salty that Mike has a statue in his city, and he doesn't.

 

[Gotright]

Super teams with 3 offensive players don't work and Miami barely worked because Bron ball limits scorers. Put Bron on a team with a Klay and somebody like Bridges and other role players and they would win more rings than a 3 superstar team. Steph or Klay could play with anyone, I don't think Bron fits with anyone.

Who are these scores that bron ball limited? Can you give that a answer I'm sure your eye test seen it. Also who was those players that LeBron fitted with his first run in Cleveland or 2018 team that went to the finals? Was those good fits?

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Who are these scores that bron ball limited? Can you give that a answer I'm sure your eye test seen it. Also who was those players that LeBron fitted with his first run in Cleveland or 2018 team that went to the finals? Was those good fits?

Him and Wade definitely was not a good fit offensively, great defensively though (which put them over the hump by keeping them in the open court). They bumped heads on offense and it was never a great offense. They went long periods of time struggling to score. Bron doesn't provide anything off the ball, Wade led all guards in scoring off cuts after being the least assisted scorer in the league the year before. You do t see highlights where Bron is cutting off the ball in the half getting easy buckets. That will always hurt an offense.

K Love really balanced him and Kyrie, and Kyrie is just a good number 2 to begin with. Their games also bumped heads and they also weren't a great offensive team. Lue is a great coach and they played good team defense though.

Ad has games where he doesn't get enough shots and never gets a post up or an elbow possession. Though I do think k they fit together better than he did with Wade or Kyrie. AD is great off the ball and can pick and pop all day and is a solid roller.

 

[Mister Terrific]

You don't become the GOAT because people keep arguing for you.

Oh so the opinions of hall of famers don’t matter now?

You become the GOAT when your play makes it undisputed.

Lebron became the goat when he came back from 3-1 down against a 73 win team who had the 2 greatest shooters in NBA history

Lebron became the goat win he shattered what many thought was an unbreakable scoring record while being top 5 in assists and rebounds.

Lebron became the goat when at the Olympics on the floor with the best players in the world at 40 he still looked like the best player in the world



You Lebron haters are just going to have to come to terms that he is doing what nobody in history has ever done before. You are in the 5 stages of grief. You gotta get to the acceptance stage

 

[Ozymandeas]

Oh so the opinions of hall of famers don’t matter now?


Lebron became the goat when he came back from 3-1 down against a 73 win team who had the 2 greatest shooters in NBA history

Lebron became the goat win he shattered what many thought was an unbreakable scoring record while being top 5 in assists and rebounds.

Lebron became the goat when at the Olympics on the floor with the best players in the world at 40 he still looked like the best player in the world



You Lebron haters are just going to have to come to terms that he is doing what nobody in history has ever done before. You are in the 5 stages of grief. You gotta get to the acceptance stage

If the bolded was true, you wouldn't have listed the stuff under it

 

[Mister Terrific]

If the bolded was true, you wouldn't have listed the stuff under it

What you said was true, everyone knew in their heart of hearts knew Jordan was the goat back in 91. But he needed the accolades. Same as everyone knew Lebron was the goat in 2016 but he needed the accolades.

The truth will set you free my brother

 

[Ozymandeas]

I'm not even gonna quote you This isn't the Supreme Court. Yall not gonna argue his way into greatness

 

[HabitualChiller]

Jordan wins the eye test EASILY though. He was simply a better player and was a better scorer by a large margin. No weak spots on the floor, can get his jumper off from any angle and under any defensive coverage and was the best ever at creating space for his jumper and creating a lane to drive off the dribble. Bron does not register among the GOATS in any of those skills.

That's what an actual eye test is lol

"Better scorer" then proceeds to list why MJ is a better shooter...well, a more versatile mid-range shooter

"Better player" then proceeds to talk about nothing other than MJ's shooting. You didn't even make a detailed analysis of what your eyes supposedly conveyed.

Bron has MJ beat in playmaking, defense and rebounding, and even shooting is arguable due to Bron becoming a good-great 3PT shooter on medium - high volume later in his career.

And no, I don't want to hear anything about MJ's DPOY because Tim Duncan doesn't have one either.

 

[HabitualChiller]

Wasn't as good on ball as Mike, wasn't as good as blocking shots and creating turnovers (gets 90% of his blocks trailing his man, not at the basket), hands are not even close, doesn't jump passing lanes on an elite level, ect.

He's great at team defense and good defending post bigs, solid as an on ball defender on the perimeter but not elite.

You just out here talking.

MJ playing defense like a 2K MyPlayer (Selling out for steals while leaving his man uncovered & leaving his man to run over and basically ghost block a big at the rim from the side or behind) really put y'all in a stranglehold

 

[King Poetic]

Jordan is the GOAT

I don’t need to look at stats and even if u look at stats whats the difference lebron only average 2 more rebounds and 2 more assists a game than Jordan

The way these stat geeks sound u think lebron averaged 9 and 9 on rebounds and assists

Anyway Jordan mindset was to attack and kill on site and he wasn’t even bad on defense like the coli stat dudes like to look out

Lebron is great but he not like jordan or kobe on trying to kill u every game

Kobe yelling at that nikka passing the ball in the all star game

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Shocking

 

[fifth column]

"Better scorer" then proceeds to list why MJ is a better shooter...well, a more versatile mid-range shooter

"Better player" then proceeds to talk about nothing other than MJ's shooting. You didn't even make a detailed analysis of what your eyes supposedly conveyed.

Bron has MJ beat in playmaking, defense and rebounding, and even shooting is arguable due to Bron becoming a good-great 3PT shooter on medium - high volume later in his career.

And no, I don't want to hear anything about MJ's DPOY because Tim Duncan doesn't have one either.

Lebron dominates the ball so not sure why you trying to compare a versatile scoring guard vs a ball dominant sf.

It’s simple, MJ was more dominant in his era than Bron every was in his own era. No one cares outside of Bron stanleys about longevity stats. Kareem and Karl Malone scored more cumulative points than MJ. John Stockton has more assists than Magic.

It comes down to did you lead your team to the chip when your team was good enough to get to the title game. MJ won every time he played in the title games since college. NCAA title, FIBA champs, Olympic gold with college squad, Olympic dream team gold, 6-0 NBA chips leading a dynasty. MJ earned his goat title without campaigning for it.

 

[Gotright]

Him and Wade definitely was not a good fit offensively, great defensively though (which put them over the hump by keeping them in the open court). They bumped heads on offense and it was never a great offense. They went long periods of time struggling to score. Bron doesn't provide anything off the ball, Wade led all guards in scoring off cuts after being the least assisted scorer in the league the year before. You do t see highlights where Bron is cutting off the ball in the half getting easy buckets. That will always hurt an offense.

K Love really balanced him and Kyrie, and Kyrie is just a good number 2 to begin with. Their games also bumped heads and they also weren't a great offensive team. Lue is a great coach and they played good team defense though.

Ad has games where he doesn't get enough shots and never gets a post up or an elbow possession. Though I do think k they fit together better than he did with Wade or Kyrie. AD is great off the ball and can pick and pop all day and is a solid roller.

You want a perfect fit?? All them won chips with bron and AD and Kyrie had their best years with LeBron. Wade and LeBron was a great fit his body just broke down besides LeBron choke job in 2011 how did they barely work like you said? How is this bron ball shyt stopping scores like you said? I think Mike is the goat too 1a but y'all just be saying shyt when it comes to LeBron.

 

[Harry B]

Watching the Olympics got legend in his feelings

KD and chef using brons own taking my talents to south beach tactics on him