Isiah Thomas declares Lebron is best ever

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Nobody considers MJ the GOAT except for ‘90s dudes who are still trying to prop up their trash era.

‘80s dudes always knew that MJ was overrated since they saw in real time how Stern changed the league to placate MJ.

Iverson, Dirk, KG, and Pierce all called Lebron the GOAT. The 2000s are rocking with Lebron.

‘70s dudes are rocking with Kareem and ‘60s dudes are rocking with Wilt.

MJ will always have Barkley and Ewing on his side though. :lolbron:
 

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Wasn't as good on ball as Mike, wasn't as good as blocking shots and creating turnovers (gets 90% of his blocks trailing his man, not at the basket), hands are not even close, doesn't jump passing lanes on an elite level, ect.

He's great at team defense and good defending post bigs, solid as an on ball defender on the perimeter but not elite.
How often was mike guarding the best player on the team? Mike got alot of blocks from guarding the 3rd or 4th best offensive player so he was allowed to roam alot right?
 

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How often was mike guarding the best player on the team? Mike got alot of blocks from guarding the 3rd or 4th best offensive player so he was allowed to roam alot right?
He played 2 full years and 17 games (broke foot) before Scottie was drafted, and Scottie wasn't good until year 3, that's 6 years. He won MVP and DPOY in 88, Scottie played 20mpg and averaged 7pts that year, Scotties rookie year. Scottie was not a great player at that point 🤣. But ok fam.
 

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He played 2 full years and 17 games (broke foot) before Scottie was drafted, and Scottie wasn't good until year 3, that's 6 years. He won MVP and DPOY in 88, Scottie played 20mpg and averaged 7pts that year, Scotties rookie year. Scottie was not a great player at that point 🤣. But ok fam.
why did you avoid answering the question?
 

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in 1989 before jordan won anything he said he was the best he ever faced

He’s went from magic to Jordan to Kareem to lebron(after the last dance) his opinion changes like seasons

Zeke has seen/been involved with more basketball since 1989, horizons expanded as expected :comeon:
 

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why did you avoid answering the question?
He guarded the best player multiple times during games. Scottie was just the primary defender, meaning MJ would still guard the best player multiple times per game.

How often has Bron guarded the best perimeter player every possession? If that's not a winning conversation for Bron, and you include the fact that hands, lateral quickness, passing lanes, and and help defense favors Jordan by a large margin, do you really wanna take it there?
 

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He guarded the best player multiple times during games. Scottie was just the primary defender, meaning MJ would still guard the best player multiple times per game.

How often has Bron guarded the best perimeter player every possession? If that's not a winning conversation for Bron, and you include the fact that hands, passing lanes, and and help defense favors Jordan by a large margin, do you really wanna take it there?
he wasnt the primary defender of the other teams best players ok got it. What about before Pippen was he the primary defender of the other teams best players before pippen was there? Im 44 and i dont know if youre being totally honest. If youre primarily guarding the opposing teams 3rd or 4th best offensive player and allowed to roam alot doesnt that help you get a lot of steals and blocks when you can basically avoid your assignment and play help D most of the game?
 

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he wasnt the primary defender of the other teams best players ok got it. What about before Pippen was he the primary defender of the other teams best players before pippen was there? Im 44 and i dont know if youre being totally honest. If youre primarily guarding the opposing teams 3rd or 4th best offensive player and allowed to roam alot doesnt that help you get a lot of steals and blocks when you can basically avoid your assignment and play help D most of the game?
That's not how basketball works my dawg.

No player in NBA history has ever guarded even 70% of a players possessions over a whole game. Has NEVER happened.

No single superstar has ever guarded the best match up on the opposing team for a whole game. It has never happened and you are trying to create a talking points that doesn't benefit Bron AT ALL lol. It makes your argument worse fam smh.

He also won DPOY in a year that Scottie was a low level role player. You are making absolutely no sense.
 

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That's not how basketball works my dawg.

No player in NBA history has ever guarded even 70% of a players possessions over a whole game. Has NEVER happened.

No single superstar has ever guarded the best match up on the opposing team for a whole game. It has never happened and you are trying to create a talking points that doesn't benefit Bron AT ALL lol. It makes your argument worse fam smh.
Ok so he wasnt before Pippen was there either got it. Now you said that Mj was a way better on ball defender than Lebron but in the late 80s and through the 90s Mj was primarily guarding some of the other teams worst offensive players wouldnt that make you look incredible as an on ball defender if majority of the time when your guarding someone on ball hes one of the worst offensive players out there?
 

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Ok so he wasnt before Pippen was there either got it. Now you said that Mj was a way better on ball defender than Lebron but in the late 80s and through the 90s Mj was primarily guarding some of the other teams worst offensive players wouldnt that make you look incredible as an on ball defender if majority of the time when your guarding someone on ball hes one of the worst offensive players out there?
BJ Armstrong or Gacy was defending the best player? Gervin? Hodges? Paxon 🤣🤣🤣 King didn't defend guards and was slightly above average.

So as you are once again making shyt up, who was the primary defender for 6 years, while MJ was regarded as the best player on the planet on both ends?
 

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BJ Armstrong or Gacy was defending the best player? Gervin? Hodges? Paxon 🤣🤣🤣 King didn't defend guards and was slightly above average.

So as you are once again making shyt up, who was the primary defender for 6 years, while MJ was regarded as the best player on the planet on both ends?
Again you avoid answering the questions. Im asking you questions based off of what you said my guy. It aint hard to answer simple questions. Either you know the answers or you dont.
 

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When Zeke said for YEARS (prior to the Last Dance) that Jordan was he best player- The Coli ignored him

When Zeke says Jordan is the best player even after The Last Dance- The Coli said he’s just saying that to save face. And receipts presented that he actually said it for decades, the Coli deflected and said he should’ve shook hands and he’s bitter.

Now when Zeke says Bron is the best player because he has historic stats and is still going very strong after 21 seasons - The Coli says that he only saying it because hates Jordan.


The Coli keep Coliing 🦾🦾🦾
 

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BJ Armstrong or Gacy was defending the best player? Gervin? Hodges? Paxon 🤣🤣🤣 King didn't defend guards and was slightly above average.

So as you are once again making shyt up, who was the primary defender for 6 years, while MJ was regarded as the best player on the planet on both ends?
And another thing some teams best offensive players arent guards so why are you singling out guards? Bron can guard 1-4 comfortably wouldnt you agree? MJ cant. so dont single out guards when were trying to see if mj was primarily guarding the other teams 3rd or 4th best offensive players because guards werent always the other teams best scorers right?
 
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