Isiah Thomas: "A Superstar Is A Guy That Has Won Championships"(Video)

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that's bullshyt though because the Heat were basically built from scratch. Besides Wade and Haslem nobody else was there. It's not like Howard going to Houston or Paul going to L.A. Lebron went to a team that was rebuilt.
nobody else is there now :mjlol:

it's bron, wade, bosh and a bunch of nikkas that wouldn't have 30 wins without them 3. oh and ray allen.. who caught a bunch of shyt for doing the same thing

i'm not saying it's right.. but every league got unwritten rules. and we are finding out.. straight from former champions and hall of famers... that leaving YOUR team when you're the leader.. to go join another team who already got a leader... is not something they respect :yeshrug:

i don't play in the nba.. who am i to shyt on their ideas... but was everyone in and out the league hating lebron before he left... nope.. soon as he did that, they shytted on him.. you think it would be exactly the same if wade and bosh said, "we coming to cleveland" nah the hate would be towards wade and maybe bosh.. but bron didn't do shyt but stay and collect players..

why you think nobody ever talks shyt about wade... why you think wade sat with that nikka all the first year... lebron caught that backlash for LEAVING.. no other reason
 

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nobody else is there now :mjlol:

it's bron, wade, bosh and a bunch of nikkas that wouldn't have 30 wins without them 3. oh and ray allen.. who caught a bunch of shyt for doing the same thing

i'm not saying it's right.. but every league got unwritten rules. and we are finding out.. straight from former champions and hall of famers... that leaving YOUR team when you're the leader.. to go join another team who already got a leader... is not something they respect :yeshrug:

i don't play in the nba.. who am i to shyt on their ideas... but was everyone in and out the league hating lebron before he left... nope.. soon as he did that, they shytted on him.. you think it would be exactly the same if wade and bosh said, "we coming to cleveland" nah the hate would be towards wade and maybe bosh.. but bron didn't do shyt but stay and collect players..

why you think nobody ever talks shyt about wade... why you think wade sat with that nikka all the first year... lebron caught that backlash for LEAVING.. no other reason

Look at Kevin Love though.

His team passed on Stephen Curry in 2009 for Ricky fukking Rubio :scuthov:
In 2010 they pass on DeMarcus Cousins
In 2011 they had the 2nd pick in a shytty draft and if they would've drafted Curry and possibly Cousins they probably wouldn't be in the that lottery.
In 2012 :snoop: @ who they gave that pick away for.
Last year The trade away Trey Burke for Shabazz Muhammad.


If I was Love I would want to bounce as well. Championship teams are more than just ONE superstar. You need competent management.
 

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they were mad that bron WENT to miami... notice nobody ever shytting on wade for it..

in their eyes, you're the star right?? you get the stars to come play with you.. you don't pack up and leave YOUR team to join another team. Wade was hopping on tables talking bout "this is my house" and now you coming to his house to play with him and his team

it'd be like jordan leaving the bulls to go play with rodman. no nikka you better than rodman.. rodman needs to come to you. yea wade won a ring first, but no one in their right mind thought wade was better than bron. bron should have said you come to me... or fukk off nikka... cause there was zero threat of wade beating bron in the playoffs at that time anyway..

then you use your star power to say to other stars, y'all come to ME... like when malone went to the lakers... kobe and shaq ain't leave to go to utah.. and malone got the same hate.. old trying to join up and win a ring ass nikka.. people was HAPPY when they lost that year

Wade was better than LeBron then
 
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so u gon tell me durant aint a superstar?
my "personal" superstar test is, do people know you, that have no idea about your sport

like i don't watch hockey.. but if you asked me who ovechkin was, i'd recognize the name and could tell you he's a hockey player in dc

i don't watch baseball, if you asked me who jeter was, i'd know who he was

i'm not sure that someone who watches soccer, would know off the top, who the hell KD is. but i'm sure they'd have heard of kobe or lebron.. who i really consider them to be the last two SUPER stars left in the league.. once they leave.. and KD is the star of the west coast, leading teams to finals more than once, getting his name blown up as the top 2 guy in the league.. he'll get there

and again.. that's what ex HOF players are all saying.. yea you a star.. that's no small thing.. be happy with that. but don't act like just cause WE know who you are, that you are transcending the game into superstar status
 

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not sure what people expected him to say. hes going to try and discredit paul (and in doing so, stockton) and elevate himself every chance he gets to try and keep his name in the top pgs of all time discussion. if you did a consensus top 5 pgs of all time, his name probably wouldnt come up very often, which obviously is a concern when you have a massive ego
 

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I get what Zeke is saying, but the logic doesn't work out. Charles Barkley was a superstar. Tony Parker is not.

And you're a bytch nikka who doesn't think wining matters


Chuck would have given his left nut just have one ring, let alone 3 and counting, that's why he chased that ring in Houston

Only in the coli 3 chips and a finals MVP isn't a superstar
 

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of course winning matters. its easy to draw the "superstar player" line at winning a title when you are a guy who has won a title and are trying to belittle players who are passing you up as an all time pg. a title is something that enhances a resume, but it doesnt make you a better overall individual player just because you have a ring. gary payton was always a great pg. he didnt suddenly get better as a player when he was on a team that won a title. that logic is asinine
 
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they were mad that bron WENT to miami... notice nobody ever shytting on wade for it..

in their eyes, you're the star right?? you get the stars to come play with you.. you don't pack up and leave YOUR team to join another team. Wade was hopping on tables talking bout "this is my house" and now you coming to his house to play with him and his team

it'd be like jordan leaving the bulls to go play with rodman. no nikka you better than rodman.. rodman needs to come to you. yea wade won a ring first, but no one in their right mind thought wade was better than bron. bron should have said you come to me... or fukk off nikka... cause there was zero threat of wade beating bron in the playoffs at that time anyway..

then you use your star power to say to other stars, y'all come to ME... like when malone went to the lakers... kobe and shaq ain't leave to go to utah.. and malone got the same hate.. old trying to join up and win a ring ass nikka.. people was HAPPY when they lost that year


NOBODY was coming to Cleveland breh:sas1:
 
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