Is there such thing as a smart Black Conservative

Kyle C. Barker

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If some black folks want to align with conservatives/republicans, let them. I don’t have a problem with people sharing different beliefs or having different opinions

My issue comes with the blatant lies and half-truths being spread amongst the black conservative community. Very often you see them parroting talking points like “Dems are the party of the KKK”, “Black people used to be Conservatives”, “ Republicans freed the slaves/fought for civil rights etc” or shyt like that. While some of that is partly true, the other part they left out is even more important - The Republican Party that did those things ISNT the modern Republican party. They weren’t CONSERVATIVES, either

I’ve had countless debates with folks about this history. Half of them were unaware that those were liberal republicans and the only reason black folks voted republicans in the past was because they were liberal. Conservatism was always the way of the land of the racist south, and back then a subset of democrats were conservative. However they became dissatisfied with the direction of the democratic party becoming more liberal and started calling themselves Dixiecrats. They obstructed the majority-liberal , mostly-northern Democratic Party as it took on more progressive positions before eventually naturally combining with a Republican party that was shedding its liberalism and becoming conservatives. It’s not hard to see this play out by voting records either

Folks like Candace Owens just obfuscate the truth of the matter to continue lying to their followers, and you see smart-dumb folks parroting their words about our political history as if they’re truth. I found it hilarious that Candace, who apparently itches to debate someone about her knowledge of politics, was so confident in herself that she BLOCKED a historian named Kevin Kruse on Twitter after he made a thread basically debunking her entire platform, point by point. It was a brutal takedown and her only recourse has been to pretend it didn’t exist and return to parroting those same points:



For anyone wanting to learn more about our political history with verifiable reports and data, the thread is an excellent source of information


Smh

That twitter guy is debunking misinformation that I've seen in TLR. I'm talking shyt that I've seen in the last 2 months.
 

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this is more of an issue of you not having a diverse group of people in your circle and watching too much media whose sole purpose is to herd you into a particular group

same as those white folks who only watch super right wing stuff

Good for you for having a diverse friend group.

How do your non racist conservative friends feel about racism being baked in to the republican platform? I'm hoping they're clear headed enough to have not but bought into the CRT stuff..
 
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this is more of an issue of you not having a diverse group of people in your circle and watching too much media whose sole purpose is to herd you into a particular group

same as those white folks who only watch super right wing stuff
:mjlol:I have been living in conservative states my entire life, and have definitely conversed with more conservatives than you as I'm active in multiple political debate channels that have ideologies spanning from tankies to unironic NatSoc dumbasses. No one is missing anything when it comes to conservatives, as I said, most base their ideology on Christianity, these are very simple people, speculating as to whether or not they are racist or not is largely irrelevant because in most cases, probably unbeknownst to them, they operate in bad faith, so odds of them admitting to racist thoughts are slim to none but we see the Republican approach to racism, and their constituents vote them in, so we can infer what that means. Would you like to go over race based bills that have been struck down by the Republicans? Why doesn't their base get riled up over that? Or what the active Republican legislators that have shared platforms with self-avowed white nationalists, where is the outcry there? And what about Republicans voting down a bill that intended to investigate white nationalism in the police force and military? Where is the outcry of non-racist conservatives on that? And what of the nonsense outrage surrounding the nonexistent CRT in grade schools and an unwillingness to even recognize issues that paint white people in a bad light historically? But yeah, they aren't racist, just need to talk more, expand your circle. :dead:



Listen, if you are some dumb englithend centrist or a Republican/conservative sympathizer just say that, but if you are a liberal saying these things, stop being naive, the people can't be be worked with, they are a lost cause, if the response to impeachment and the Jan 6 insurrection wasn't enough, you are lost too.
 

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Good for you for having a diverse friend group.

How do your non racist conservative friends feel about racism being baked in to the republican platform? I'm hoping they're clear headed enough to have but bought into the CRT stuff..
I'm putting anyone bordering on Republican sympathizer as being on the same stupid level as Republicans. This tolerance of the intolerant, and their inability to see it, when we aren't too far removed from peak levels of fascism historically, just makes them doomed to repeat history, and they are definitely not the reading type.
 

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She knows exactly what she’s doin, I agree
Yeah, I don't know about Ms. "If Hitler stayed in Germany, things would be fine" Owens being smart, but I'm starting to realize people have a low bar for what they consider smart.


Oh and here:



:dead:Yeah, just hiding her power level. Her understanding of anything is on par with her previous TPUSA buddy, but at least he accepted debates, Candace dodges left and right and now she is above it. And would you love to go over her deleted tweets spouting some of the dumbest shyt?
 

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Yeah, I don't know about Ms. "If Hitler stayed in Germany, things would be fine" Owens being smart, but I'm starting to realize people have a low bar for what they consider smart.


Oh and here:



:dead:Yeah, just hiding her power level. Her understanding of anything is on par with her previous TPUSA buddy, but at least he accepted debates, Candace dodges left and right and now she is above it. And would you love to go over her deleted tweets spouting some of the dumbest shyt?

She’s just playing up a very lucrative lane.

c00n checks are fine for her
 

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She’s just playing up a very lucrative lane.

c00n checks are fine for her
:mjlol: I don't believe in 3-d chess for 99% of people, she exhibited similar qualities before her MAGA stumping, those same qualities led to her going MAGA, just a stupid person. I was aware of who Owens was at least a 2 years before she shifted. Don't get me wrong, a lot of money shilling for MAGA, but I don't think her smart enough to be gaming the system. I can't even think of a gifter, out of Ruben, Greenwald, Crowder, Owens, Tim Pool, and various other suspected grifters, that I would ever consider to be intentionally grifting for money, because they have all at multiple points in their career, exhibited traits that suggest low reasoning.

As I have said countless times, most people operate on moral luck, the foundation on which they base their beliefs is nonexistent or flimsy at best, thus, their likelihood of radical shifts from one ideology to another aren't surprising. I tell you, a liberal white boy is one bad interaction with a black person from joining Patriot Front. A liberal on a border state is one bad interaction away with an undocumented from supporting ICE raids. And I can expand this across the aisle to conservatives and to the far extremes, most people operate on moral luck.

I mean, Candace Owens was one bad interaction from jumping to extreme liberal where she created a site to dox conservative trolls, and in response to liberal the backlash, jumped to MAGA. You think far too highly of these people.
 

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:mjlol: I don't believe in 3-d chess for 99% of people, she exhibited similar qualities before her MAGA stumping, those same qualities led to her going MAGA, just a stupid person. I was aware of who Owens was at least a 2 years before she shifted. Don't get me wrong, a lot of money shilling for MAGA, but I don't think her smart enough to be gaming the system. I can't even think of a gifter, out of Ruben, Greenwald, Crowder, Owens, Tim Pool, and various other suspected grifters, that I would ever consider to be intentionally grifting for money, because they have all at multiple points in their career, exhibited traits that suggest low reasoning.

As I have said countless times, most people operate on moral luck, the foundation on which they base their beliefs is nonexistent or flimsy at best, thus, their likelihood of radical shifts from one ideology to another aren't surprising. I tell you, a liberal white boy is one bad interaction with a black person from joining Patriot Front. A liberal on a border state is one bad interaction away with an undocumented from supporting ICE raids. And I can expand this across the aisle to conservatives and to the far extremes, most people operate on moral luck.

I mean, Candace Owens was one bad interaction from jumping to extreme liberal where she created a site to dox conservative trolls, and in response to liberal the backlash, jumped to MAGA. You think far too highly of these people.

She’s “smart” in the sense of using her cooking to play up outrage for a check
 

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She’s “smart” in the sense of using her cooking to play up outrage for a check
Sure, I could give her that but depending on the platform, that could just be the writers.
 
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