Is there such thing as a smart Black Conservative

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There is no such thing, you cant be a black man and be a conservative and support the white supremacist GOP in american society unless your a self hating c00n who hates his race. The GOP sole focus is to maintain white male patriarchal supremacy, anything that strays from that they will use whatever means necessary to bend it in line, their idea of a perfect society was in the 1950s when ''america was great'' aka black men were still called ''boys'' and treated like children, where we were second class citizens. That's what the GOp want to make black people in america permanent second class citizens without federal government able to protect rights. The movement at its core is a hateful one that wants to preserve an america where only white men called the shots and had final say so.
 

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:mjlol: I don't believe in 3-d chess for 99% of people, she exhibited similar qualities before her MAGA stumping, those same qualities led to her going MAGA, just a stupid person. I was aware of who Owens was at least a 2 years before she shifted. Don't get me wrong, a lot of money shilling for MAGA, but I don't think her smart enough to be gaming the system. I can't even think of a gifter, out of Ruben, Greenwald, Crowder, Owens, Tim Pool, and various other suspected grifters, that I would ever consider to be intentionally grifting for money, because they have all at multiple points in their career, exhibited traits that suggest low reasoning.

As I have said countless times, most people operate on moral luck, the foundation on which they base their beliefs is nonexistent or flimsy at best, thus, their likelihood of radical shifts from one ideology to another aren't surprising. I tell you, a liberal white boy is one bad interaction with a black person from joining Patriot Front. A liberal on a border state is one bad interaction away with an undocumented from supporting ICE raids. And I can expand this across the aisle to conservatives and to the far extremes, most people operate on moral luck.

I mean, Candace Owens was one bad interaction from jumping to extreme liberal where she created a site to dox conservative trolls, and in response to liberal the backlash, jumped to MAGA. You think far too highly of these people.

I agree, and I do not think that society is as red and as blue when it comes to the consensus. And the consensus will lean on the various shades of purple, Sure, you will get the hardcore extremist that choose to identify with the more extreme ideologies. But deep down, it is down to the media to tell people on what to think. Before you even watch a video the title already gives a biased opinion.

And I do think at some point Candace will turn on the conservatives. I have never seen a normal black person that has fully taken on the ideology of the maga conservative
 

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There is no such thing, you cant be a black man and be a conservative and support the white supremacist GOP in american society unless your a self hating c00n who hates his race. The GOP sole focus is to maintain white male patriarchal supremacy, anything that strays from that they will use whatever means necessary to bend it in line, their idea of a perfect society was in the 1950s when ''america was great'' aka black men were still called ''boys'' and treated like children, where we were second class citizens. That's what the GOp want to make black people in america permanent second class citizens without federal government able to protect rights. The movement at its core is a hateful one that wants to preserve an america where only white men called the shots and had final say so.

Wrap up the thread, nothing more needs to be said
 

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this is more of an issue of you not having a diverse group of people in your circle and watching too much media whose sole purpose is to herd you into a particular group

same as those white folks who only watch super right wing stuff
What conservatives aren’t racist?
 

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They're dumb out of the gate for consorting with what has basically became the frustrated white male safe zone politically. It's a bad look. Libertarians basically wanna reinstate the economic aspect of Jim Crow(sit and listen to them closely, what they advocate will lock blacks out of a lot of shyt because we don't own enough segments of the economy) so they are trash too.

NOW we are actually a pretty conservative people in general especially on certain subjects. Doesn't mean we register Republican or go hang out at Trump rallies. That's frustrated(read entitled and broke) white folks central.
 

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@Jalether it funny in a way to see posters attack conservativism yet cap for centrism which in alot ways just come off as the political correct version of conservativism because everything you can say about conservativism keeping the :mjpls: status quo. you could make the same augment about centrism they just do it a nicer way but it still maintaining status quo just doing it in a nicer way.:jbhmm: It like just how posters in this thread are asking how can anyone black be conservative:what: the same can be say in your thread in higher learning how can anyone that black be centrists:what:
 

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@Jalether it funny in a way to see posters attack conservativism yet cap for centrism which in alot ways just come off as the political correct version of conservativism because everything you can say about conservativism keeping the :mjpls: status quo. you could make the same augment about centrism they just do it a nicer way but it still maintaining status quo just doing it in a nicer way.:jbhmm: It like just how posters in this thread are asking how can anyone black be conservative:what: the same can be say in your thread in higher learning how can anyone that black be centrists:what:
Enlightened centrists annoy me the most, tbh.
 

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At least Black libs and White libs can have opposing viewpoints especially when it comes to race.
Black conservatives just co-opt whatever their White masters say. It's not even "Conservatism with a Black lean", they just echo the collective White perspective. If White conservatives just up and started praising Black people one day, they would follow suit.
 

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:mjlol:I have been living in conservative states my entire life, and have definitely conversed with more conservatives than you as I'm active in multiple political debate channels that have ideologies spanning from tankies to unironic NatSoc dumbasses. No one is missing anything when it comes to conservatives, as I said, most base their ideology on Christianity, these are very simple people, speculating as to whether or not they are racist or not is largely irrelevant because in most cases, probably unbeknownst to them, they operate in bad faith, so odds of them admitting to racist thoughts are slim to none but we see the Republican approach to racism, and their constituents vote them in, so we can infer what that means. Would you like to go over race based bills that have been struck down by the Republicans? Why doesn't their base get riled up over that? Or what the active Republican legislators that have shared platforms with self-avowed white nationalists, where is the outcry there? And what about Republicans voting down a bill that intended to investigate white nationalism in the police force and military? Where is the outcry of non-racist conservatives on that? And what of the nonsense outrage surrounding the nonexistent CRT in grade schools and an unwillingness to even recognize issues that paint white people in a bad light historically? But yeah, they aren't racist, just need to talk more, expand your circle. :dead:



Listen, if you are some dumb englithend centrist or a Republican/conservative sympathizer just say that, but if you are a liberal saying these things, stop being naive, the people can't be be worked with, they are a lost cause, if the response to impeachment and the Jan 6 insurrection wasn't enough, you are lost too.
The convo is more complicated than emoji's and just writing off anyone that says something different than you.
(Im also not about to have one of those "my white people are better than your white people" convos.

Does someone being a conservative mean they agree with everything every conservative does?
of course not

Especially when you see different types of people within the same group depending on what city/state youre in.
(a conservative in the SW is different than one in the NE)

All of that happens because black people only look at liberal politicians...
...and so politicians can play those race games

Writing off an entire group of people is lazy thinking...
...you know that
 

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The convo is more complicated than emoji's and just writing off anyone that says something different than you.
(Im also not about to have one of those "my white people are better than your white people" convos.

Does someone being a conservative mean they agree with everything every conservative does?
of course not

Especially when you see different types of people within the same group depending on what city/state youre in.
(a conservative in the SW is different than one in the NE)

All of that happens because black people only look at liberal politicians...
...and so politicians can play those race games

Writing off an entire group of people is lazy thinking...
...you know that
I gave reasons for my position, you engaged with none of them. So fukk off, idiot.
 

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@Jalether it funny in a way to see posters attack conservativism yet cap for centrism which in alot ways just come off as the political correct version of conservativism because everything you can say about conservativism keeping the :mjpls: status quo. you could make the same augment about centrism they just do it a nicer way but it still maintaining status quo just doing it in a nicer way.:jbhmm: It like just how posters in this thread are asking how can anyone black be conservative:what: the same can be say in your thread in higher learning how can anyone that black be centrists:what:
True, centrist are just polite conservatives to an extent

But they run the democrat party and its the best we got for now
 

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There is none how can you align with people who hate , discriminate & make laws to harm you ?
I think Republicans (the more extreme ones on the far right that sympathize with Nazi, Germany and extreme fascists) want to see Black people eliminated..
At the end of the day, there's nothing smart about aliginging with those types as a black person.
 

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From your experience, what types of black people are likely to c00n?

From my experience, black c00ns come from the following groups
1. Black people who grow up in impoverished conditions. So they subconsciously associate white with success and wealth and black with struggle and poverty. So they reject blackness.

2. Black people who grow up in mostly white, especially conservative, neighborhoods. c00ning becomes a way to fit in and they internalize all the self-hate and become full-blown c00n. Also black people who are in the military or law enforcement around right-wing white people

3. Black immigrants ( This is just my observation; I'm not starting a diaspora war)- Immigrants associate success/ assimilation with whiteness so they try their best to get to proximity with white people.
I agree with all of this and Include first gen Black people in this too

BTW i am a first gen nigerian/st. Crucian Ive observed all of that from your list. So its not diaspora war ish...im sick of the c00nery and off code BS.
 
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