Is there such thing as a smart Black Conservative

[Jalether]

From your experience, what types of black people are likely to c00n?

From my experience, black c00ns come from the following groups
1. Black people who grow up in impoverished conditions. So they subconsciously associate white with success and wealth and black with struggle and poverty. So they reject blackness.

2. Black people who grow up in mostly white, especially conservative, neighborhoods. c00ning becomes a way to fit in and they internalize all the self-hate and become full-blown c00n. Also black people who are in the military or law enforcement around right-wing white people

3. Black immigrants ( This is just my observation; I'm not starting a diaspora war)- Immigrants associate success/ assimilation with whiteness so they try their best to get to proximity with white people.

From my experience it's the 3rd group

The biggest c00n in the UK right now,kemi badenoch, is a nigerian brehette who grew up in Nigeria, although she was born here.

Equalities minister under fire for writing she does not ‘care about colonialism’

Warnings issued that Kemi Badenoch’s messages could drive black supporters away from Tory party

www.theguardian.com

Teachers presenting white privilege as fact are breaking the law, minister warns

‘We do not want to see teachers teaching their white pupils about white privilege and inherited racial guilt’, women and equalities minister tells MPs

www.independent.co.uk

Focus on white privilege stokes division, says equalities minister Kemi Badenoch

The term “white privilege” is stoking divisions and marginalising the most disadvantaged, the equalities minister claims.Kemi Badenoch said that an “intense focus on race” was weakening Britons’ sense of national identity. She suggested that people should be emphasising what they have in common, rat

www.thetimes.co.uk

Teaching white privilege as uncontested fact is illegal, minister says

Kemi Badenoch tells Commons debate on Black History Month that schools must offer opposing views

www.theguardian.com

The biggest c00ns I have interacted with are mostly from Africa, being African myself we grew up putting cacs on a pedestal and associating whiteness with sophistication, some people grow out of that inferiority complex while others struggle to shake it

 

[Unfiltered]

One other things conservative politicians pretend to be stupid to appeal to their base. Years back the daily show had a funny segment in this history graduate newscaster pretending she didn't know some basic US history to not sound like an “elite”

She had her PhD I think, I remember that a blonde white woman. That's what fox does dumb themselves down to appeal to their audience.

Forgot her name though....

Both sides do that though liberals hate white people but want to live around them and tell you how gahsbisbabpart of our history and because racism ypu vote for them. Two sides to the same coin.

 

[DEANBIGBROTHERALLMIGHTY18]

From my experience it's the 3rd group

The biggest c00n in the UK right now,kemi badenoch, is a nigerian brehette who grew up in Nigeria, although she was born here.

Equalities minister under fire for writing she does not ‘care about colonialism’

Warnings issued that Kemi Badenoch’s messages could drive black supporters away from Tory party

www.theguardian.com

Teachers presenting white privilege as fact are breaking the law, minister warns

‘We do not want to see teachers teaching their white pupils about white privilege and inherited racial guilt’, women and equalities minister tells MPs

www.independent.co.uk

Focus on white privilege stokes division, says equalities minister Kemi Badenoch

The term “white privilege” is stoking divisions and marginalising the most disadvantaged, the equalities minister claims.Kemi Badenoch said that an “intense focus on race” was weakening Britons’ sense of national identity. She suggested that people should be emphasising what they have in common, rat

www.thetimes.co.uk

Teaching white privilege as uncontested fact is illegal, minister says

Kemi Badenoch tells Commons debate on Black History Month that schools must offer opposing views

www.theguardian.com

The biggest c00ns I have interacted with are mostly from Africa, being African myself we grew up putting cacs on a pedestal and associating whiteness with sophistication, some people grow out of that inferiority complex while others struggle to shake it

I don't want to misinterpret. But what does this say about black people globally when the ancestral land is filled with c00ns. This is troubling.

 

[MacNCheese]

The only smart black conservative I've met was a very rich man (second wealthiest man I know personally) who admitted he votes for them purely in the hopes of having a lower tax burden. It's pretty much the same for white people too though. There's no 'smart' reason for a not rich person to vote republican.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I don't want to misinterpret. But what does this say about black people globally when the ancestral land is filled with c00ns. This is troubling.

It says nothing since Africans aren't Black in the same way Zulu are not Igbo.​

 

[LeaveMyHairLineAlone]

It says nothing since Africans aren't Black in the same way Zulu are not Igbo.​

Black is not an ethnicity/tribe how can you not comprehend this

Do you really think Africans are incapable of describing their own skin color?
Sudan literally means "land of the blacks. Ancient Kemet used to refer themselves as"kememu/kemmui"=Black people. Mauritania=Moor etc the list goes on and on take.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

You only see certain black conservatives get attention because they publicly criticize black people. There are many black conservatives who aren’t like that.

 

[Joe Budden]

About 25 years ago I was at a barber shop, and an impressionable, clean cut, 30 something black man driving a brand new candy apple red Lexus came in to get his hair cut. He was clean cut, professional; looked like Cuba Gooding Jr. Everybody at the shop was roasting him because he was a conservative/Republican but he held to his beliefs. He preached the gospel of bootstrapism. I was instantly inspired. I became a Republican during the Bush II era, I finished college with an Accounting degree. I was a registered Republican up until the Tea Party takeover/Obama Era. So I see both sides. I definitely don't fukk with Republicans anymore, I'm too woke for that. But I also see the racism embedded into the Democrat agenda. Facts is facts, America isn't built for us.

So to answer your question, of course there are smart conservatives that actually care about our progress. But at the same time, it's oxy-moronic to think choosing a wing a white supremacy could ever be beneficial to our cause. So choosing either side is foolish. I guess the Democrats are the lesser of the two evils.

I respect this post because it reminds me of my experiences. All the examples of successful black men I saw were usually republican.

 

[Bumblebreh]

You only see certain black conservatives get attention because they publicly criticize black people. There are many black conservatives who aren’t like that.

I would not even call them black conservatives. They are just black people that take on the talking points and identify with the radical right.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Candace owens isn’t as dumb as people make her out to be, that’s that liberal propaganda

Good Lord

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

The answer to this question is very nuanced.

The people who you mentioned are paid to be contrarian (ie c00ns). Candace Owens for example was a left wing activist who found that the money was in criticising black people.

Thomas Sowell is a man who white people put up as an "intelligent" black man. But never once have I seen them ask him for economic guidance.

I might be wrong but I find most black people are conservative with a small C.

Ask ten brehs about trans and homosexuality
Some will hit you with
Others will say they aren't down with it but as long as they keep it to themselves

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Nobody smart choses parties like they are teams. The point should be both parties serve you and your are not loyal to a fault. The issue is that conservative parties have become the parties of OPEN racism. So there is a conflict with supporting them in their current state without reform for a Black conservative

 

[Reflected]

Them black conservatives aren't pretending to be dumb. They are naturally dumb.

Yeah, ironically this is only proving how silly most people are in general. There are no smart conservatives, those that vote and write legislation on religious lines are idiots, those that vote with the intention of keeping more money to themselves are also idiots but for much more complex reasons. THERE ARE NO SMART CONSERVATIVES. I would be willing to debate any conservative considered smart because as I have stated before, I have been in countless vocal debates with all types of conservatives, even the rare and mythical non-religious conservatives were idiots. So I would love to meet the magical smart conservatives these people are talking about. So many idiots think having money and speaking clearly makes you smart. Insane, your ability to reason and think abstractly is what I typically consider traits of an intelligent person.

Anyone that pays attention to the voting records of Republicans will realize they are stupid as all hell and voting for them is stupid as hell. In a Republican controlled world, we don't even have basic protections for food, water, and clean air. I could go on and on, there are no smart conservatives, anyone thinking otherwise is just stupid enough to believe there are. Because perceptions of intelligence are entirely relative, there are probably people that unironically believe Candace Owens or a Steven Crowder are smart, but imagine how dumb you have to be to believe that? It's relative.

 

[Reflected]

Nobody smart choses parties like they are teams. The point should be both parties serve you and your are not loyal to a fault. The issue is that conservative parties have become the parties of OPEN racism. So there is a conflict with supporting them in their current state without reform for a Black conservative

That and the Republican party has become the party of anti-reasoning, they have consistently been against anything promoting intellectualism. So I'm not seeing how anyone "smart" could ever align with them.

If anyone has examples of "smart" conservatives, either video, blog, or books, please post it. I would love to get an idea of what it means to be anything nearing "smart conservative".

 

[Reflected]

Yeah if they're fiscal conservatives.

Yeah, fiscal conservatives that won't have clean air to breath. Sounds smart.

Why are Republicans fighting to pollute the air we breathe?

GOP state officials and members of Congress are asking the Supreme Court to gut the Clean Air Act, which has protected Americans from pollution for half a century.

thehill.com

But this week, Republican state officials and members of Congress are asking the Court to gut the Clean Air Act, throwing families under the bus at the behest of coal company executives.

Republicans have shamelessly become the party of polluters, putting the profits of oil, gas, and coal CEOs above the health of the folks who sent them to Congress. Through dubious legal arguments in an amicus filed in West Virginia v. EPA, Republicans essentially are asking the Supreme Court to let coal companies pollute without limits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/06/supreme-court-epa-ruling-was-beginning-something-bigger/

However, their celebration didn't last long before they began plotting ways to challenge other environmental regulations on similar grounds, setting up a larger legal showdown over the federal government's ability to address the climate crisis.

The rules in their crosshairs include the Securities and Exchange Commission's landmark proposal to require all publicly traded companies to disclose their greenhouse gas emissions, as well as the EPA's tailpipe emissions standards for new cars and light trucks.
“The Biden administration is trying to transform all these agencies and turn them into an environmental regulator,” West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (R), who led the legal challenge to the EPA's climate authority, said at a news conference last week.

“West Virginia is ready for President Biden’s workarounds,” Morrisey said. “We took them all the way up to the Supreme Court and we beat them this time. And we are prepared to do it again, again and again.”

So smart though.