is there anybody messing with rakim in multiple rhyme schemes

Art Barr

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this is a debate fck ngga...and you lost...now close this one star thread



you dumbass,......

i am the only one knowledgeable with fact based posts in this thread.

that includes the dap'd up post and insults, goofie!!

log out of your alias,..then learn about the culture.

chu goof-dorktastic lame ass boi!!


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@art barr

people try to bring real argument to the discussion and all you can respond is by insulting and condescending bullshyt. When a guy came on the insult instead of debating, not only that shows his mind limits but what an imbecile he is. The fact alone that you sign every post with your name prove that you a narcissic douchebag

But leave that alone, the question was, is rakim is untouchable with the multis. And the response is, while he was great at it, G rap is unquestionably the godfather of it, and Big Pun bring that to an other level

oh and no need for you to respond if all you can do is insulting



you need to learn how to reAd the championship dap'd up prolific posts, i have in this thread.

plus, how to use the quote button, you fukk'n toy.


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I meant he doesn't switch up the internal rhymes from the end rhymes which is why the sh*t starts to become more predictable after a while (you know which word he's gonna rhyme) and it's not as intricate a rhyme scheme. Yes, he rhymes a lot of words in this song but it's usually the one word that he rhymes all the other words with for 2 to 4 bars whereas Nas on Illmatic switched it up mid-bar a whole lot more. For example, in the above verse (which is quite long) Ra only has two different rhymes in one bar in those 4 bars I highlighted. If he had done that more his style would have been that much doper..

Sh1t ain't predictable...you're saying that after the fact. U need to listen to more Rakim w/Eric B if you don't think Rakim's internal rhymes are intricate enough. He streamlined is style somewhat when he went solo but Ra's style was known as unorthodox in the late 80s/Early 90s. Let the Rhythm Hit Em is STILL the GREATEST display of technique by an EMCEE.

From 88

How could I keep my composure
When all sorts of thoughts fought for exposure?
Release, then veins in the brains increase
When I let off, make a wish and blow the smoke off my piece
Unloadin, unfold and the rhymes are explodin
And the mic that I’m holdin’s golden
Cordless cause the wire caught fire like a fuse
Gunpowder and the slightest bruise is a friction
The outcome is there so listen
Here's the brief description
A boom then flame then smoke, ashes a dust to dust
Contact is compact when I bust
MC's are now in a massacre
A disaster a... master at fashion a beat to death
 

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No one does internal rhyming like Ra(he brought it to Hip Hop on a Grand scale) not even Nas.

This is boring to U?? His flow was sick on this. From the same album.

Just when things seemed the same, and the whole scene is lame
I come and reign with the unexplained for the brains 'til things change
They strain to sling slang, I'm trained to bring game
History that I arranged been regained by King James
Go to practice, with tactics, when the track hits, theatrics
Women that look like actress the status of Cleopatra's
Stacks of mathematics to feed yo-asiatics
As I find out, what the facts is, for geographic
No time to sip Mo's with hostess, never mind what the total gross is
I rip shows, stay focused, and split cheese, with soldiers
While you hit trees and coast I spit flows that be ferocious
And with these explosives, I split seas for Moses
Shine permanently only my mind's concernin me
Fire burns in me eternally time's eternity
Followers turn on me they'll be in a mental infirmary
Determinely advance technology better than Germany
Since the first days you know of, till the last days is over
I was always the flow-er, I made waves for Noah
From a compound, to the anatomy, to the breakdown of a atom
Some of my rap patterns, still surround Saturn
From the ancient hieroglyphics, to graffiti painted pictures
I study I know the scriptures but nowaday ain't it vicious
Date back I go beyond, check the holy Qu'ran
To speeches at the autobahn, now we get our party on
So being benificent, I bless em with dialogue
They expectin the next testament, by the God
I roam through battlezones with chrome for chaperone
Blast beat with saxophones one of the baddest rappers known
Every country city and borough, sidestreet and ghetto
Isle and alley and meadow, theories thorough enough to echo
When it was one mass of land, with one nash' of man
And the whole mass was ran under one master plan
Since the world's metamorphis, and the plan is kept in orbit
Turntables we spin awkward but needles never skip off it
Rhythms we expressin similar to our ancestors
It'll answer your questions if you understand the message
From the days of the slave choppers, to the new age of prophets
As heavy as hip-hop is I'm always ready to drop it
From the mind which is one of Allah's best designs
And mines'll stand the test of time, when I rhyme

When it comes to the trio of Lyrics/Flow/Rhyme Scheme no one in the history of Hip Hop is seeing Ra. Nas didn't update sh1t from Ra. Niccas still haven't topped the trifecta of Follow The Leader/Lyrics of Fury/Let the Rhythm Hit em including Ra himself.


In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions Enough space for more than a million words and inventions To travel through time within enough room to be the womb Of the most high’s great mind which he will soon make shine With intelligent elements in sight that he will gather In the realms of relativity electricity struck matter Energies explode he below to keep releasin Atoms by the millions, til the numbers increasin Til it was burnin he kept returnin itself to the source The hotter his thoughts it gave the center more force He gave birth to the sun which would follow his laws All caused by his mental intercourse, who is god?


rakim is ill with the multi's his shyt match in syllable count
 

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Sh1t ain't predictable...you're saying that after the fact. U need to listen to more Rakim w/Eric B if you don't think Rakim's internal rhymes are intricate enough. He streamlined is style somewhat when he went solo but Ra's style was known as unorthodox in the late 80s/Early 90s. Let the Rhythm Hit Em is STILL the GREATEST display of technique by an EMCEE.

From 88

How could I keep my composure
When all sorts of thoughts fought for exposure?
Release, then veins in the brains increase
When I let off, make a wish and blow the smoke off my piece
Unloadin, unfold and the rhymes are explodin
And the mic that I’m holdin’s golden
Cordless cause the wire caught fire like a fuse
Gunpowder and the slightest bruise is a friction
The outcome is there so listen
Here's the brief description
A boom then flame then smoke, ashes a dust to dust
Contact is compact when I bust
MC's are now in a massacre
A disaster a... master at fashion a beat to death

You're just proving my point though. Compare above verse with a random Illmatic verse and you'll see Nas has a much more intricate rhyme scheme mid-bar. Nobody is sh*tting on Rakim's legacy here man. You just gotta be realistic about it. There is a reason why Illmatic is considered one of the greatest albums of all time, it's because it set a new standard for NY rap in terms of rhyming (among other reasons of course). Rakim influenced the game heavy but he wasn't actually the god mc who was never equalled by the people who followed him. Rakim paved the way for people like Nas to improve the technical aspect of rhyming.
 

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you dumbass,......

i am the only one knowledgeable with fact based posts in this thread.

that includes the dap'd up post and insults, goofie!!

log out of your alias,..then learn about the culture.

chu goof-dorktastic lame ass boi!!


art barr

:laugh: that was cute....so you mean to tell me that analyzing Rakim's multiple rhyme schemes somehow makes you a knowledgeble champion of this culture?? fckouttahere clown. Rakim's rhyme scheme was definitely ahead of it's time back in '88, but sht has progressed since then - and your little keypoints about his multi's just don't hold no weight no more - you need to let tht sht go
 

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:laugh: that was cute....so you mean to tell me that analyzing Rakim's multiple rhyme schemes somehow makes you a knowledgeble champion of this culture?? fckouttahere clown. Rakim's rhyme scheme was definitely ahead of it's time back in '88, but sht has progressed since then - and your little keypoints about his multi's just don't hold no weight no more - you need to let tht sht go


nikka shut your awful redirected recanted pr face ass up.

earlier,..your comments were trash.

then you tried to change directions in content after getting tabled, to save face.

you not good at posting and your opening post about rakim speaks volumes about what you don't know.

stop playing up to the crowd,....who is not in your favor.

the crowd will easily set you up for the swerve and give me a staple gun.

so i can staple close your retina.

then give you the vic grimes off the scaffold or balcony, in the crowded audience.


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Somehow that example in the first post felt like a watered down Ra to me. I can't really analyse why.
 

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nikka shut your awful redirected recanted pr face ass up.

earlier,..your comments were trash.

then you tried to change directions in content after getting tabled, to save face.

you not good at posting and your opening post about rakim speaks volumes about what you don't know.

stop playing up to the crowd,....who is not in your favor.

the crowd will easily set you up for the swerve and give me a staple gun.

so i can staple close your retina.

then give you the vic grimes off the scaffold or balcony, in the crowded audience.


art barr

Just one question? Where is the crowd? I'm not looking for the crowd to agree with me. Worrying about what the crowd thinks aint hiphop anyway clown. I simply put my two cents in about Freeway and this somehow upset you - but you need a dose of reality - posting about Rakim does not make you or anybody else an authority figure over hip-hop period. I got daps too -and I only been here for a week. How long you been here? I'm just sayin

and show some courtesy to others in the thread and shorten that sig - we get it already
 
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