But is that not a movement towards autonomy?
And is black separation at all an popular ideology anywhere in the diaspora?
Is there a pro-black movement in Brazil?
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And is black separation at all an popular ideology anywhere in the diaspora?
No, if they were moving to the quilombos and investing in it then we'd have a different argument. Quilombos were created out of desperation not self-determination but have the potential to be more though I don't see any support for that type of thinking.
All Black nations have no need for that type of ideology, just smart business.
I also want to know
Live in quilombos in 2017 brehs
Breh do you know what quilombo means here in Brazil?
Quilombo was nothing more than a refuge for enslaved Africans, some exist to this day but no negro would like to live there
Live in quilombos in 2017 brehs
Breh do you know what quilombo means here in Brazil?
Quilombo was nothing more than a refuge for enslaved Africans, some exist to this day but no negro would like to live there
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Nah it's not, in fact the image is more negative because it refers us to slavery.
We still have many here, but only serve to preserve the historical factor, many have no electricity.
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Maroon communities everywhere are examples of self determination
thats false but ok
so how do you explain certain maroon communities organizing governments and stable communities?its 100 % fact that maroon communities were formed out of the motivation to escape not build
how do you explain the marronage that occurred preceding and during the Haitian Revolution?
Of course they had to set up a governing body but that does not mean that was the motivation for the creation of the settlements.
They escaped (prime motivation), they settled and with settlement came the need to create rules and regulations
The maroon communities COULD be an example of autonomy but I don't see any evidence of any ideology that will promote it as such.
They escaped (prime motivation), they settled and with settlement came the need to create rules and regulations
The maroon communities COULD be an example of autonomy but I don't see any evidence of any ideology that will promote it as such.
Do former slaves in Jamaica that establish communities when the Spanish abandoned Jamaica count?Of course they had to set up a governing body but that does not mean that was the motivation for the creation of the settlements.
They escaped (prime motivation), they settled and with settlement came the need to create rules and regulations
The maroon communities COULD be an example of autonomy but I don't see any evidence of any ideology that will promote it as such.
or the Garifuna?
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I'll say it again, how things work here in Brazil.
We black Brazilians have a close bond with our African roots, over centuries, silently fighting for equality, denouncing the oppression and segregation in which we are imposed every day. But these movements rarely get any media, because that's what the government here is so concerned about hiding. The same Government that considers 53% of the population BLACK!
I bet foreigners rarely associate such images with Brazil:
Black march(1988) under the military eyes
Recently
From the outside, it seems that nothing is happening here and that we are not doing anything. Brazil is one of the most racist countries in the world, we are discriminated against and we fight against it every day, however, the policy of "let it go" by the government ends up covering up the segregation that exists here.
Weren't there some actions around the Olympics (or was it the World Cup) when sites had to be built over a slaves cemetery or something like that, I think I read a couple articles back then
Tbh I'm not well read on those specific communities to say y/n
Were they created with premeditation or were they a reaction to another group's actions?
Honestly, it doesn't really matter. The point is that autonomy IS possible. The fact maroon communities are not flourishing don't make me confident that ideology built around autonomy has any gas at the moment.
Were they created with premeditation or were they a reaction to another group's actions?
Honestly, it doesn't really matter. The point is that autonomy IS possible. The fact maroon communities are not flourishing don't make me confident that ideology built around autonomy has any gas at the moment.
Garifuna were founded on St. Vincent as the result of indigenous and former African captives that survived a ship wreck intermarrying. St. Vincent was not settled until late as the French and British left them alone. They were later deported to Central America.
There's another group in Nicaragua that are very similar, the Miskito, they are descendants of former captives that survived shipwrecks and the natives and were independent until the later 1800s.
the first Jamaican Maroons were established after the Spanish abandoned Jamaica. they were recognized by the British as independent until the Second Maroon War.