Is there a comprehensive list of arguments for not having a child?

[Jazzy B.]

Ask old heads with no children whether they should of had a child


Old and frail with no one to look after them or stuck in some hell hole retirement home


Some of y'all think you'll be in great shape and perfect health even at 70+

 

[Contrefaire]

1) You don't want kids
2) You don't like kids
3) Kids are expensive
4) You enjoy ONLY being responsible for yourself
5) You don't want kids
6) (and this one is key) YOU DON'T fukkING WANT ANY KIDS

 

[Umoja]

I don't see why anyone not extremely wealthy would even want to have kids. Those of us that have to work a job almost everyday is hard enough and you want to add raising a kid to that? That's crazy as fukk and also kind of selfish. You gon bring a kid in this fukked up world where he/she are most likely gonna have to work til they are 60 something and with the increase of mass shootings and shyt? Nah I'm all the way coo.

If people thought like that, we wouldn't exist as a species. People in the developing world would die out.

As fukked up as it may sound, forming a capable family can be an effective way out of poverty. Children don't stay young forever and resources can be pooled.

The problem is that society encourages families to go their seperate ways the moment they turn 18, which is a bit ironic when you look at what rich families do.

 

[Paradoxx]

Ask old heads with no children whether they should of had a child


Old and frail with no one to look after them or stuck in some hell hole retirement home


Some of y'all think you'll be in great shape and perfect health even at 70+

Just because you have children doesn’t mean it guaranteed they will take care of you when you’re old. My father had over 16 kids and everyone still fighting on who has to take care of him.

Just having children for them to take care of you when your older is incredibly selfish shyt honestly

 

[Jazzy B.]

Just because you have children doesn’t mean it guaranteed they will take care of you when you’re old. My father had over 16 kids and everyone still fighting on who has to take care of him.

Just having children for them to take care of you when your older is incredibly selfish shyt honestly

That's why you make sure you're a good father and have a good relationship with them along with letting them see YOU looking after their grandparents in their elderly age as they're growing up


A lot you childless folk are gonna get that wake up call when y'all hit older age

 

[SupaHotIce]

The cons are there are no pros

Some people might think some pros are curing your loneliness or having someone to look after you at old age, but most people have no patience and would be bad parents so that's off the table unless you're a mother with a son who is most likely to worship their mother

 

[Paradoxx]

That's why you make sure you're a good father and have a good relationship with them along with letting them see YOU looking after their grandparents in their elderly age as they're growing up


A lot you childless folk are gonna get that wake up call when y'all hit older age

That’s the problem, my father was a good man and hardworking, he made sure each and everyone of us got out of Haiti to live better successful lives elsewhere.

I understand it mentally hard for some of you to imagine people not wanting kids or caring about who will take care of them when their old. We’ll be alright, no need for you to worry.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

idk i've always heard ppl complain about having kids. mf complain about it more than relish it

im 40 so i've had my peers as parents for 20+, its usually the same format. 'i'd do anything for them...BUT'

'you and your wife are so lucky' no one forced anything on you! cracks me up

I've seen a couple other people on here say shyt like this and it makes me wonder why kinda circles y'all run in.

I hear positive stuff about having kids at least 90% of the time with the people I'm around. So I'm genuinely curious as to who all these people are who regret kids, and what they'd rather be doing with their lives.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What exactly are the pros?

The cons are there are no pros

Who are you hanging out with that you don't see any joy in having kids? Experiencing unconditional love, watching another human being grow and develop, getting to pour yourself into someone's life and influence them in every way, a hundred hilarious/touching/astonding moments every day....like this isn't just me, everyone I know who legitimately cares about parenting experiences this on the regular.

Do you enjoy loving someone else? Do you enjoy someone else loving you? I thought that was one of the most basic human experiences that everyone shared.

That doesn't mean there aren't drawbacks of course, but the positives are wild common. I have good days and shytty days, but there isn't a single day in my life that my daughter doesn't bring joy to it just by being herself, no matter how shytty everything else is going. I feel like you'd either have to be some sort of sociopath or have had some really fukked up family experiences to think that there's no positive in being part of a family.

 

[Jazzy B.]

That’s the problem, my father was a good man and hardworking, he made sure each and everyone of us got out of Haiti to live better successful lives elsewhere.

Sound's like YOU'RE gonna be the one out of the 16 who who steps up and looks after him breh


There's ALWAYS one who does

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If u r not financially secure enough to know ur kids won’t ever have to struggle then dont be selfish. Refrain from having kids.

Struggle in what way? Every decent human being I know has had to struggle at some point, it's part of the human experience and maturing as a person. Silver spoon trust fund babies who never had to struggle are generally pricks.

I'm not saying that you should have a kid if you're not ready for it. But if you have a stable job and don't have huge debts, what's the issue?

My dad was working class but was always employed. Never had much money but there was always a roof over our heads and food on the table, neither of those was in doubt. And my mom didn't work until we were old enough to watch ourselves. If you can guarentee that they will have food, shelter, enough time commitment from you to raise them right, and aren't living in a neighborhood where they're gonna get PTSD, what else you looking for?

 

[SupaHotIce]

Who are you hanging out with that you don't see any joy in having kids? Experiencing unconditional love, watching another human being grow and develop, getting to pour yourself into someone's life and influence them in every way, a hundred hilarious/touching/astonding moments every day....like this isn't just me, everyone I know who legitimately cares about parenting experiences this on the regular.

Do you enjoy loving someone else? Do you enjoy someone else loving you? I thought that was one of the most basic human experiences that everyone shared.

That doesn't mean there aren't drawbacks of course, but the positives are wild common. I have good days and shytty days, but there isn't a single day in my life that my daughter doesn't bring joy to it just by being herself, no matter how shytty everything else is going. I feel like you'd either have to be some sort of sociopath or have had some really fukked up family experiences to think that there's no positive in being part of a family.

Comparable to an abusive/toxic relationship which has its moments

 

[Paradoxx]

Sound's like YOU'RE gonna be the one out of the 16 who who steps up and looks after him breh


There's ALWAYS one who does

Most definitely, I love him very much Once I’m done with medical school, I’m taking him and my mother in.

 

[perfectblack999]

My wife and I have an 18 month old daughter and I 6 week old son. I firmly believe most people shouldn’t have kids the way western society is set up. In other cultures the whole community raises your child. In America, you’re out here solo.

Cons

• It’s expensive AF
• You won’t sleep for the first 3 months
• Your time and mental capacity is no longer yours
• You have to cut most hobbies
• Young kids are a nightmare to travel with
• Whatever issues you and your significant other have will be magnified 10x

Pros

• The highs are some of the highest highs you’ll ever experience. Watching your child learn new skills is really a blessing
• To add to the first point, seeing a toddler full sprint toward you because they haven’t seen you for a while is 🥹
• They bring your family together. You’ll see a side of your parents you’ve never seen before
• Of course, you have someone to take care of you when you’re old

 

[ba'al]

Ask old heads with no children whether they should of had a child

I've volunteered at an old folk shelter and it's people in there with biological children who don't visit or talk to their own parents. And that's a selfish reason to have kids because you want someone to look after you when you're old, frail and about to kick the bucket. So you want your child to see you sickly and slowly rotting away? How is that not nefarious?

And to be honest jazzy B it's not guaranteed you will even grow old. YOU could die today for all you know or a year. No ones knows how much times they have left on earth. Or vice versa your child could pass before you do.