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Actually I literally don't think there is anyone in black political commentary currently out of the many voices that Ive seen online that is better than Carnell and Moore.
Always think critically tho.

Also ADOS is a specific movement with core tenants like many other movements. And yes maybe you are not in the specific movement if you are not in line with those core tenants.

Your opinions are not significant if not informed weather it agrees with a pundit or not.

Like the Tariq thing maybe Moore could be approached the difference in tactics a different way but Nasheed response was one of the most irresponsible things I've scene in recent memory imo.
The short answer is “No”
That’s fukked up but at least I know now. Nothing will be achieved by inner conflict and division. Rinse, Repeat. 50 years later and the Code Wars continue. This time all it took was a New York Times article. Noted.

But y’all are okay with a Papa John’s racist playing mascot with the Black Church Convention and white “allies”. Noted.
 

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Not to get off topic but
@Nicole0416 If you condone Nasheeds action surrounding 1866 CRA. I don't see how that is black unity or upliftment.
Having standards of conduct in your political movement and holding people accountable is not a cult as you implied imo.
I could say the same for Tone and Yvette . Then the mudslinging back and forth solves what?
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But y’all are okay with a Papa John’s racist playing mascot with the Black Church Convention and white “allies”. Noted.

Actually no I'm not. But while we're here, can the church really play a positive and significant role like it did in the 60s?

As of right now, the church can get people to the polls, but those people being politically enlightened especially after decades of the NVM mindset seems unlikely.
 

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I could say the same for Tone and Yvette . Then the mudslinging back and forth solves what?
:comeon:
You can't say the say same because Tariq Nasheed did was politically irresponsable in regards to the 1866 CRA and made at least 9 lies against ADOS after that to smear.
At most Moore was maybe a little confrontational in regards to Tariq Trump tweet.
After that Carnell defended herself against the smears on her broadcast and Twitter
 
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The short answer is “No”
That’s fukked up but at least I know now. Nothing will be achieved by inner conflict and division. Rinse, Repeat. 50 years later and the Code Wars continue. This time all it took was a New York Times article. Noted.

But y’all are okay with a Papa John’s racist playing mascot with the Black Church Convention and white “allies”. Noted.
Papa John's donated a million dollars to an HBCU a black agenda would give HBCUs the $ they deserve through Federal funding but we don't have that now.
Instead Papa John's took a pic and donated $ after the bad PR incident.
When corporations mess up racially as apart if their 'amends' theybdonate money to HBCU scholarship or school. Dennys did the same thing when they their racist incident.
 

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Do black people have enough $ to compete with white $ in Poltics?
Yes

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/09/01/friends-israel
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Jews made up less than three per cent of the American population, concentrated in nine states, and they voted overwhelmingly Democratic. How could AIPAC, with such a small base, become a political force in both parties and in every state?

Dine launched a grass-roots campaign, sending young staff members around the country to search for Jews in states where there were few. In Lubbock, Texas, for instance, they found nine who were willing to meet—a tiny group who cared deeply about Israel but never thought that they could play a political role. The lobby created four hundred and thirty-five “congressional caucuses,” groups of activists who would meet with their member of Congress to talk about the pro-Israel agenda.

Dine decided that “if you wanted to have influence you had to be a fund-raiser.” Despite its name, AIPAC is not a political-action committee, and therefore cannot contribute to campaigns. But in the eighties, as campaign-finance laws changed and PACs proliferated, AIPAC helped form pro-Israel PACs. By the end of the decade, there were dozens. Most had generic-sounding names, like Heartland Political Action Committee, and they formed a loose constellation around AIPAC. Though there was no formal relationship, in many cases the leader was an AIPAC member, and as the PACs raised funds they looked to the broader organization for direction.

Members’ contributions were often bundled. “AIPAC will select some dentist in Boise, say, to be the bundler,” a former longtime AIPAC member said. “They tell people in New York and other cities to send their five-thousand-dollar checks to him. But AIPAC has to teach people discipline—because all those people who are giving five thousand dollars would ordinarily want recognition. The purpose is to make the dentist into a big shot—he’s the one who has all this money to give to the congressman’s campaign.” AIPAC representatives tried to match each member of Congress with a contact who shared the congressman’s interests. If a member of Congress rode a Harley-Davidson, AIPAC found a contact who did, too. The goal was to develop people who could get a member of Congress on the phone at a moment’s notice.

That persistence and persuasion paid off. Howard Berman, a former congressman from California, recalled that Bubba Mitchell became friends with Sonny Callahan, a fellow-resident of Mobile, Alabama, when Callahan ran for Congress in 1984. Eventually, Callahan became chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations. “Sonny had always been against foreign aid,” Berman said. “Then he voted for it!”
 

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Actually no I'm not. But while we're here, can the church really play a positive and significant role like it did in the 60s?

As of right now, the church can get people to the polls, but those people being politically enlightened especially after decades of the NVM mindset seems unlikely.
I think it is possible transitioning to a liberation theology from the current prosperity theology of these modern mega church. back in the days the black church was a source of political change.

Also the things that we think as blacks that are unlikely are the things we need the most. Unlikely is no excuse to not try
Imo.
 

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Basically you are excommunicating us from the group for not being strict followers of Tone and Yvette ??

You don't have to agree or like with every move in my opinion.

Who is "us" from the group"

Also their is no way to execommunicate from the movement I dont think.
Everything is voluntary of course.

I just feel in my opinion there are some non negotiables politically in terms of solidarity and what Nasheed as in individual pulled off was impermissible
 

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It’s not happening babe, I say that since we’re being removed from
The group, we start our own . Fuk it

:jbhmm:

But wait. No one can "kick you out of the group" because Yvette and Tone don't have that sort of power, position, or sway. All the #ADOS groups are independent and locally based. They set their own agendas, methods, and strategies. Regardless of @Asicz says, he has even less say on who's in or out than they do.

@xoxodede @HarlemHottie is my understanding of this wrong?
 
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