@Nicole0416 At least the OP had the balls to ask the question and start a topic on subject matter like this and be open to more info.
Need more of that.
Need more of that.
Is there a better option than blindly down balloting?
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If I wanted to have a thread with the title "Democrats ain't shyt", then I would have. This thread is about best political ways to get any party to meet the needs of black people.
I'm asking questions, probing solutions, and trying to get as many good ideas about political discourse and getting results as I can. If you have some ideas or strategies to share, then please do.
@Kenny West nah OP straight even though that cats be on fuc democrat don't vote stuff. Unfortunately a lot of ADOS brehs were groomed to disengage out of complacency and disappointment among other things imo.
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Fam, that was one time. I was pretty disgusted with both candidates. I'd rather not digress though.
And to be honest, for years, voters have only concentrated on the Presidency and if they can bothered, Congress. Local elections hasn't been hot in the black electorate since the CRM.
Let me understand - if I don’t “choose a specific leader” and abide by Yvette or Tone without consideration of other proponents/teachers/supporters of ADOS/FBA; our opinions don’t matter, basically we’re de facto factioned out of the movement?
That’s my point. OPs post was very well stated and explained. And instead of being impartial and respecting his approach, in comes a demeaning comment talking about taking a poli sci 101 class, instead of keeping the subject academic.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies of old age, Trump packs the Supreme Court with far right lunatics, fascism fully takes over America, and then reparations NEVER happens.
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You asked a question with an extremely obvious answer (which I provided), and used the meantime to wax poetic on talking points that get posted every hour on here.
And by page 3 there really aint a discussion being had...
but hey, have at itThere needs to be the Black equivalent of AIPAC. A lobbying firm that contributes to candidates campaign. Once they're in office hand them precanned bills to our benefit to propose and ensure there's enough support to get it passed. Should they refuse to play along, they're opponent will be supported in the next election so they no longer hold a seat. This newly elected rep has first hand knowledge of what's going to happen should they not play ball and is incentivized to appease the lobby.
There was an excellent article that laid this entire thing out, and how AIPAC grew to one of the most influential using this strategy. Let me find that link...
There was an excellent article that laid this entire thing out, and how AIPAC grew to one of the most influential using this strategy. Let me find that link...
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Let me understand - if I don’t “choose a specific leader” and abide by Yvette or Tone without consideration of other proponents/teachers/supporters of ADOS/FBA; our opinions don’t matter, basically we’re de facto factioned out of the movement?
I think what he's referring to is that Yvette and Tone have explained down ballot voting on their shows and the impact it should have. That's why I should watch it.
Actually I literally don't think there is anyone in black political commentary currently out of the many voices that Ive seen online that is better than Carnell and Moore.Let me understand - if I don’t “choose a specific leader” and abide by Yvette or Tone without consideration of other proponents/teachers/supporters of ADOS/FBA; our opinions don’t matter, basically we’re de facto factioned out of the movement?
Always think critically tho.
Also ADOS is a specific movement with core tenants like many other movements. And yes maybe you are not in the specific movement if you are not in line with those core tenants.
Your opinions are not significant if not informed weather it agrees with a pundit or not.
Like the Tariq thing maybe Moore could be approached the difference in tactics a different way but Nasheed response was one of the most irresponsible things I've seen in recent memory imo.
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Do black people have enough $ to compete with white $ in Poltics?
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Yes. Just agreeing with a pundit doesn't make you "right". Just as disagreeing or differing with them doesn't make you "wrong". The cohesion or foundation of your argument determines if it should be considered or not.
But I agree if a group has core tenants that you mostly disagree or even don't abide by, then more than likely you are not part of that group. By group, I mean political group.
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Not to get off topic but
@Nicole0416 If you condone Nasheeds action surrounding 1866 CRA. I don't see how that is black unity or upliftment.
Having standards of conduct in your political movement and holding people accountable is not a cult as you implied imo.
@Nicole0416 If you condone Nasheeds action surrounding 1866 CRA. I don't see how that is black unity or upliftment.
Having standards of conduct in your political movement and holding people accountable is not a cult as you implied imo.
There iterally are not though. There are relevant and significant point and insignificant points and uninformed opinions weather talking politics music film sports etc.
Let's stop with the games.
