Is the tech industry ANTI-BLACK by nature?

[root_eruditorium_org]

Crazy thing I noticed I have been the youngest person at all of the jobs I have worked with everyone being 15-20+ yrs older than me. And its true you dont want to be at a job more than 3 yrs unless you get promoted, because being somewhere too long you are molded into only being useful to that company. One thing that discourages people is jobs asking for totally different tech stacks where its almost feels impossible to build a skill set when so many jobs ask for different things, only to find out the people in the actual jobs dont know any of the stuff and pretty much learn on the fly when ever something comes up that requires it. So much vain stuff goes on with being grilled in interviews for stuff that isn't even used on the job. Thats why I stuck the BA/PM route because those skills are universal and at most you will just need to learn a tool or two that the company may use, but even then I`m seeing BA/PM roles that ask people to know huge tech stacks and I`m like

Yes, sometimes the requirements make me go , like really breh? I've worked enough places to know that interviews are BS. & it sucks nowadays because everybody thinks they are Google, FB and only deserve "the best", so they always ask these crazy ass interview questions that bear no relevance to the actual jobs. hackerrank, cracking the coding interview and leetcode have fukked the game up for real.

& then the fact that you have to spend time after 8 hours of hard work to work on a "side project" so that other employers will take you seriously. I mean its cool, I get it, they want proof that you are really about your shyt. But isn't the fact that I already have employment or have done such and such project in my current job proof enough? I basically have no life whatsoever these days. There's just always this push to just keep going and going so that I can stay competitive.

its like walking up a down escalator. goal posts always being moved. skills are completely disparate (you could be an expert in one specific thing but be clueless on others, and this limits your job options). sometimes i feel like its impossible to not get pigeonholed after you have worked tech long enough. just hope your stack is important / popular enough taht you can bounce from job to job easily.

i'm going to work hard so i can maximize my pay while i'm still young but i definitely don't see myself doing this forever. the longer i become a (professional) programmer the more i hate doing this shyt unfortunately.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yes, sometimes the requirements make me go , like really breh? I've worked enough places to know that interviews are BS. & it sucks nowadays because everybody thinks they are Google, FB and only deserve "the best", so they always ask these crazy ass interview questions that bear no relevance to the actual jobs. hackerrank, cracking the coding interview and leetcode have fukked the game up for real.

& then the fact that you have to spend time after 8 hours of hard work to work on a "side project" so that other employers will take you seriously. I mean its cool, I get it, they want proof that you are really about your shyt. But isn't the fact that I already have employment or have done such and such project in my current job proof enough? I basically have no life whatsoever these days. There's just always this push to just keep going and going so that I can stay competitive.

its like walking up a down escalator. goal posts always being moved. skills are completely disparate (you could be an expert in one specific thing but be clueless on others, and this limits your job options). sometimes i feel like its impossible to not get pigeonholed after you have worked tech long enough. just hope your stack is important / popular enough taht you can bounce from job to job easily.

i'm going to work hard so i can maximize my pay while i'm still young but i definitely don't see myself doing this forever. the longer i become a (professional) programmer the more i hate doing this shyt unfortunately.

Yea what makes you even more sick is how every 3-4 yrs theres a new "hot stack". I`m in my late 20s and can tell you know I`m super straight on living a life of having hope someone will give me a chance to make money lol. My goal is to be debt free by 30 (minus my mortgage, and probably a little student loans left over) and pop off my first business by 32-35. Before then of course I want side ventures but I dont plan on being in this employee role my whole life.

 

[Midrash]

I think it's the personality types that dominate these fields.

These aren't the cool ass white boys who you play basketball with and chilled at bars with who could rap you Dr Dre and Tupac like they lived in the hood.

A lot of these are the kind of goofyish old fashioned type of white guys who already complain about how affirmative action isn't fair and how rap is crap.


I think black people with their shyt together makes them feel very insecure and it goes against their own preconceived notion that black people are naturally "less intelligent" and "inferior". It makes them feel jealous too when they see a brother with great social skills but all of the same intelligence skills. I seen this shyt all the time with computer geeks, engineers, etc. They only like black guys who don't make them feel "threatened".


All of this talk about black people aren't qualified enough is just convenient ways of ignoring the fact that they don't think black people are intelligent or as hardworking as other races. If they did they wouldn't have 1-2% minority rates for black workers and they would be doing more than menial BS positions like mopping the floor and basic ass IT shyt. They will find any excuse whether it's grades, alma mater, "value to the company", "company fit", etc to justify their bigotry and racism.

 

[Rick Fox at UNC]

South Asians like Indians bombarded the tech industry with sheer numbers alone. when i was in college, 90% of the IT students were from India etc.
The difference between us and them is merely that they take their tech studies seriously. They have programming sweat shops where young boys are taught programming from an early age to give them an edge. Indian high schools are also notoriously competitive, and you dont just get into a chinese university. They only accept straight A students etc..they arent here to fukk around, whilst we all run off to study Sports science and Anthropology etc.
Asians are all racist towards Blacks from my experience. Where that comes from I dont know.

Asian folks (mostly Chinese/Japanese) I've run across in tech and school have been nothing but cool.

But yea, most folks are playing for keeps when it comes to this tech. Again, I don't even want to get going on Unit 8200 and the Israeli Defense Force.

 

[Rick Fox at UNC]

I think it's the personality types that dominate these fields.

These aren't the cool ass white boys who you play basketball with and chilled at bars with who could rap you Dr Dre and Tupac like they lived in the hood.

A lot of these are the kind of goofyish old fashioned type of white guys who already complain about how affirmative action isn't fair and how rap is crap.


I think black people with their shyt together makes them feel very insecure and it goes against their own preconceived notion that black people are naturally "less intelligent" and "inferior". It makes them feel jealous too when they see a brother with great social skills but all of the same intelligence skills. I seen this shyt all the time with computer geeks, engineers, etc. They only like black guys who don't make them feel "threatened".


All of this talk about black people aren't qualified enough is just convenient ways of ignoring the fact that they don't think black people are intelligent or as hardworking as other races. If they did they wouldn't have 1-2% minority rates for black workers and they would be doing more than menial BS positions like mopping the floor and basic ass IT shyt. They will find any excuse whether it's grades, alma mater, "value to the company", "company fit", etc to justify their bigotry and racism.

So wait wait, you know of highly qualified college educated black men who are "mopping" floors and doing "basic ass IT shyt?"

 

[el_oh_el]

So wait wait, you know of highly qualified college educated black men who are "mopping" floors and doing "basic ass IT shyt?"

These dudes are exaggerating. Bunch of crybaby ass nikkas. shyt is fukked up out here but it's still plenty of opportunities to get this cake..I went from 29k to 50+ and I haven't even finished my degree. shyt I'm actually being underpaid for the hard work I do (Cisco networking) but it will pay off when I get to 60 or 70k within the next year or so.
When it comes down to it most black people I've come up around are not feeling this tech shyt. Whether it's because of our environment or not I do not know, but it's the truth. I'd really mostly attribute it to the sucky schooling we get in the hood...
These days every damn kid has a laptop so maybe things will change.

As for highly qualified dudes working in helpdesk...fukk outta here lmao

 

[3rdWorld]

We don't even have a real proper Black Twitter.
In south Korea they been had their own social media app that millions of them use, but we can't even get a Black one off the ground. We're a long way off..

 

[Wild self]

Y'all gotta understand this App Bubble is going to burst as majority of these App companies do not make money they just have large user basis thus their valuations are over inflated. Its going to be the dot.com bubble burst all over again.

Exactly. Putting all of our eggs in one basket would be a disaster, despite the skilled trades and certs.

 

[Wild self]

Technology is the Future.. Whites don't want Blacks in the Future.Simple.

Nah, whites are done. They have negative birth rates and they committing suicide at record levels, on top of the crystal meth outbreak. They also losing ground in Europe as well. By 2050, they gonna be marginalized in power and in population size.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

More black people should flood the tech sector. Cacs overcharge for simple tasks and it's not difficult to undercut their markets.

Geek squad is getting away with MURDER

It´s a very simplified summary, but

 

[Unknown Poster]

Dope read brehs...just posted some snippets


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[Art Barr]

That feel when you shave come in a suit and have 20 resumes in hand while the non black dude comes in a polo slacks and boat shoes to interview for same job

With no socks and they will make you feel uncomfortable and say you were over dressed.

shyt is maddening.

I have had numerous Companies from retail to telecom/data.
pass me over for the underdressed dude with no socks on, boat shoes and complete lack of professional dress.
Can't get no career out here or anywhere without affirmative action. shyt pisses me off.
Like wtf was Obama for.
Nuffin.

Art Barr

 

[IVS]

Its crazy. I interviewed for a position yesterday here in DC, and i was doing research and looking at the org chart with pics, and there was only one black women. Everybody else in tech is white or asian (which includes indian and middle eastern). I was like damn...1 asian dude and a 2 white guys interviewed me. I think they were shocked to find out I was black after they looked at my resume. I wonder if I'll hear back from them.

Another interview last week for a sys admin position, I get on the skype call and its this white boy interviewing me, then after I go over my resume and all these questions he's like this is a consulting position and you dont really have a consulting background. Im like....clearly my resume demonstrates that so what was the purpose of interviewing me. Feels like he saw I was black and was like: OKAY! I had visited that companies offices in VA and there were no black people, so Im not shocked really.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Its crazy. I interviewed for a position yesterday here in DC, and i was doing research and looking at the org chart with pics, and there was only one black women. Everybody else in tech is white or asian (which includes indian and middle eastern). I was like damn...1 asian dude and a 2 white guys interviewed me. I think they were shocked to find out I was black after they looked at my resume. I wonder if I'll hear back from them.

Another interview last week for a sys admin position, I get on the skype call and its this white boy interviewing me, then after I go over my resume and all these questions he's like this is a consulting position and you dont really have a consulting background. Im like....clearly my resume demonstrates that so what was the purpose of interviewing me. Feels like he saw I was black and was like: OKAY! I had visited that companies offices in VA and there were no black people, so Im not shocked really.

I've been there too.
did a video interview for a tech company.
I guess when they found out I was black they just bailed asap cause they said I got the job but they stopped contacting me asap immediately.

 

[bigrodthe1]

Its crazy. I interviewed for a position yesterday here in DC, and i was doing research and looking at the org chart with pics, and there was only one black women. Everybody else in tech is white or asian (which includes indian and middle eastern). I was like damn...1 asian dude and a 2 white guys interviewed me. I think they were shocked to find out I was black after they looked at my resume. I wonder if I'll hear back from them.

Another interview last week for a sys admin position, I get on the skype call and its this white boy interviewing me, then after I go over my resume and all these questions he's like this is a consulting position and you dont really have a consulting background. Im like....clearly my resume demonstrates that so what was the purpose of interviewing me. Feels like he saw I was black and was like: OKAY! I had visited that companies offices in VA and there were no black people, so Im not shocked really.

Yeah I have been through this on numerous occasions. When I was working in DC it wasn't so bad on the contract side, especially before 9/11 but after it once companies started having to sponsor people for Security clearances it dried up quick and forced a brother out of the area for some time
Now on the other hand I lived in the South for a couple of years and the rednecks down there did NOT want to hire people of color and it was pretty damn blatantly obvious. I remember going to one interview for a Network admin position and they are asking questions about programming architecture software development etc...and once they finished with the questions they ask me did I have any feedback I wanted to give and I TOLD them that I felt the level of questions didn't fit the job description later I got a call from the recruiter and he told me they said I wasn't getting offered the position based on my answers to the questions IT is a dirty field and when folks ask me should they enter into it I ALWAYS shoot them down. The best bet now is to use your experience to try to get your OWN business up and running.