Is Steph winning his fourth Finals putting Lebron Era to the back burner for the 00s

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His legacy will be looked upon more favorably for sure and rightfully so. He changed the game and spent his career as the face of a franchise that went from a lottery team to a dynasty. Moreover, he did it all without being a nomadic snake-oil salesman and Klutch media gaslighting.
 

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no one would take curry's legacy over kobes.

This is highly, highly debatable but no one wants to touch on anything that even hints at challenging Kobe. Cats wanna compare him to only Mike and Bron like there aren't a list of other competitors to Kobe's stature...

As it is now, without Steph winning another title, you could make the argument that he's impacted the game more than Bean. This is his third WCF as the #1, which is also how many Kobe led as well, so he's tied with him there, beats him in MVPs, and you could easily make the argument that he peaked higher than Kobe...

(For the record Curry is post-peak right now, in the back stretch of his prime)...

Its very, very close for whose legacy youd rather want, and nikkas not gonna be in this same thread essentially arguing that Steph's legacy is greater than a consensus Top 2 player ever (LeBron), but somehow saying it isn't even thinkable his legacy can challenge Kobe's...

That year was crazy for Kobe. Lebron has a horrible finals record that will be shytted on for decades to come.

No one else's Finals record is mentioned. Not Wilt's 2-4 record, only that he won it all twice. Not the fact that O is somehow considered a Top 12 GOAT but wasn't a champion until Kareem carried him to his only chip, its only mentioned that he won the title (along with the triple doubles)...

Nobody else's Finals record is ever, ever mentioned because all that really matters is you won it all. LeBron will be more appreciated once he's gone, he won 4 titles which isn't some easy feat to accomplish, and won all 4 as the best player on his squads which is even rarer...

The Culture will remember Bron more appreciatively than we respected his work in real time...

A dynasty is a team term not an individual player. Bron was part of an almost dynasty with the heatles.

The Spurs won 4 titles in 9 years, 1998-2007, and are regarded as a dynasty. LeBron James won 4 titles in 9 years, 2011-2020, and even won a b2b in his run which the Spurs didn't do, so what's the difference? The difference is no player was ever this portable and dominant to where a "team term" could be ascribed to him...

lmao dog shyt argument. not even a thinly veiled anti bron thread. steph curry himself wouldnt even rank himself above lebron.
lebron won a championship before stephs prime, during stephs prime, and after stephs prime....all while playing 6-7 years before steph got to the league.
please stop. It's okay to accept peoples greatness whether stephs or lebrons.

Bron was an MVP with a Finals run before Steph even entered the NBA. Before Steph even hit his prime in the mid-10s Bron was a 4x MVP, 2x champ, and had been to 4 Finals, he had a HOF career before Steph was even a national conversation...

Even since Steph became an elite player Bron added on two more rings and six more Finals runs, thats a separate HOF career...

2003-13 Bron, and 2013-present Bron are two separate HOF iterations of the same player, with the line of demarcation being, the 2013-14 season, the year Steph had the 50-special in The Garden, is when he entered his prime and started on becoming the legend he is now...

The Steph over Bron argument is so disingenuous because it entirely ignores the fact that Bron is not even truly of the same era as Steph, was a Famer before Steph was Steph, and continued to dominate after Steph became Steph...

Its ridiculous and i love Steph, he's climbing the ladder but its probably over with for him to catch Bron historically, but thats fine. The window to do it was a short one, it was thar legendary '16 season, if he completed that and built on it maybe that changed the historical narrative but it didn't happen...

Steph is challenging alota nikkas favorite All-Time greats but it ain't Bron...

You look at the impact of the player performance to the league. Curry single handily change the way the game is played across the world along with winning championships while being the greatest shooter ever. I can't say the same for Lebron bro.

Giannis to Luka to Jimmy, as well as lesser players, have modeled large aspects of their games after LeBron. If that ain't player performance what is?

One of many characteristics about Bron, including the fabled "LeBron ain't a scorer" that are undervalued I'm real time that'll be more appreciated once he's gone...
 

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:mjlol: name your top 5 or 10 please. I like how you didnt engage the context at all and put absolutes on something thats opinion based
Because my absolute is what has always been the standard. What you do in Championship games/series. I'm not saying anything ridiculous. Why are the goalposts moved for Bron?

My Top 10

KAJ
Mike
Earv
Bron
Timmy
Bill
Kobe
Bird
Shaq
Wilt
 

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We not moving the goalposts like this fam

In the championship, he's 4-6. That's not goat worthy. Not even .500????

No. We don't do this for no one else in sports. That Dallas debacle is unacceptable. I still low-key think he threw that shyt as it looked like Wade was on his way to getting FMVP
I been saying this. That's the 1 sports conspiracy I will ALWAYS believe because it didn't make sense.

So that finals was the one where lebron got nervous and not 07?

So that finals Dallas somehow schemed to take lebron out of heat gameplan?

So that series wade out plays Bron and all of a sudden Bosh is the 2nd option now?

If wade won that 1st FMVP in Miami, which is HIS city, that ruins Lebron's legacy "PLAN"

my bad for the thread derail
 

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Lol the dubs went thru down years and rebuilt around Steph into a contender again. TD and Kobe type shyt. Something Bron never did.
Mehhh they just had to get healthy there was no massive rebuild to the core of that team...they rebuilt the bench sure but 4 out of 5 player that started in their 2019 finals campaign are still there after returning from being injured and suddenly they look good again...what a shocker lol... Isn't that exactly what happened to Lebron from Lakers year 1 to Lakers year 2 or are we going to goal post shift as usual
 

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LeBron James won 4 titles in 9 years, 2011-2020, and even won a b2b in his run which the Spurs didn't do, so what's the difference? The difference is no player was ever this portable and dominant to where a "team term" could be ascribed to him...

The difference is LeBron lost more finals than he won during that period, how that could ever be considered a dynasty is beyond me. Not to mention a dynasty is a TEAM that dominates the entire league. LeBron dominated a conference sure, but not the entire league by any means.
 
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