Is Nicki Minaj the undisputed GOAT female rapper?

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one of the beastie boys has a whole park named after him in Brooklyn :francis:


Beastie Boys had somewhat of an impact though. It was short lived but still a small part of their breakdancing and style. I’m not a fan of theirs but you can’t ignore that.
 

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Nicki has had a longer run that those women so her tree of influence is larger. She influenced more female rappers than all of them.

So what Missy influenced Wayne? Y'all take statements and flower giving from other rappers to other rappers way too serious. My man Nicki probably influenced Wayne too fr given the countless studio sessions they had together over the years. This doesn't mean shyt in the grand scheme of things. Nicki has the total package to be the G.O.A.T. and she's still going.

Speculation. Having a longer run doesn't mean this tree you speak of is larger. Especially since she is a branch off someone else's tree.

Know your history. Baby and them speak on how Wayne was listening to Missy in the Hot Boys days. Listen to "Tha Block Is Hot". How he's rapping on that song is Missy all day. Wayne ain't just recently randomly say Missy was his favorite rapper. He's on record saying this for decades.

Nicki isn't Wayne's favorite rapper. Until he says she is, then you can keep the speculation and juelzing. All you've done is "probably this" or "because she's been around x amount of years, she has more influence". Until you can show me proof, don't reply. And one of Nicki's biggest hits, "Anaconda", is a song Missy Elliott rejected. When Nicki dropped "Right Through Me", Babyband them were hyping it by comparing it to Lauryn Hill's work. Drake has a huge hit sampling Lauryn Hill and he sampled Missy.
 

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So? Those other rappers had their own influences too. Who cares? Pretty much every female MC in the last 10 years grew up a Nicki Stan.

Nicki isn't Vanilla Ice.

Ya logic garbage


Nicki isn’t Queen Latifah or Roxanne Shante either. That colorful bullshyt is a gimmick. If she just kept it original maybe we can talk.
 

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Beastie Boys had somewhat of an impact though. It was short lived but still a small part of their breakdancing and style. I’m not a fan of theirs but you can’t ignore that.

Ok; well keep your logic the same. Beastie Boys are as hybrid as it gets. They were a shytty rock band rebranded and created by Russel Simmons and Rick Rubin to be a cac version of RUN DMC. Who could you even site a child of beastie boys? Nikki got a lot of musical children.....
 

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Nicki carried female rap on her back when it was dead and laid the blueprint for an entire generation of new rappers tho. She undeniably had a greater impact than lauryn and missy let’s be real

She didn't have agreater imoact and NONE of you have actually explained how. Nobody's listing verses or artists citing her as an influence and want people to take you seriously. Missy carried female rap back in an era where female rap was rampant. I remember she was winning female rap artist of the Year at every awards show that had a female rap category from BET to the Grammys. She was winning awards until she dropped her last album in 2005.
 

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Ok; well keep your logic the same. Beastie Boys are as hybrid as it gets. They were a shytty rock band rebranded and created by Russel Simmons and Rick Rubin to be a cac version of RUN DMC. Who could you even site a child of beastie boys? Nikki got a lot of musical children.....


That’s exactly what they were. They bit Run DMC and made their own version so white fans can jump on board. I’m guessing cause they were Jewish they had their own block made in Brooklyn.
 

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Missy Elliott had a platinum single in 2015 with "WTF", which was 18 years after her debut album. This dude straight looped a Missy record and had a moderate hit with it:





Lauryn Hill's "Repercussions", which was a leaked song charted last decade.
 

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Missy Elliott had a platinum single in 2015 with "WTF", which was 18 years after her debut album. This dude straight looped a Missy record and had a moderate hit with it:





Lauryn Hill's "Repercussions", which was a leaked song charted last decade.


Missy cool.

Hill, no.
 
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She didn't have agreater imoact and NONE of you have actually explained how. Nobody's listing verses or artists citing her as an influence and want people to take you seriously. Missy carried female rap back in an era where female rap was rampant. I remember she was winning female rap artist of the Year at every awards show that had a female rap category from BET to the Grammys. She was winning awards until she dropped her last album in 2005.
Bruh go to a hair salon right now and ask the ladies how many missy verses they know by heart vs nicki verses. Ask them to name missy b-sides and nicki’s b-sides. I’ll bet every dollar in my account they can name more nicki songs and verses than missy and you know that too.

And speaking of awards, didnt bet get rid of the female rap award and then brought it back once nicki started cooking? Is that not huge impact?
 
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