Is lil Bibby correct?“If you’re a street nikka and your son is a street nikka you failed as a father
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The thing is most street nikkas try and prevent their sons from going down the same path through sports or whatever.
But that "do as I say, not as I do" parenting style doesn't work, boys inherently want to be like their dads, especially if it seems like their father is a successful criminal.
Seen it too many times, same thing goes for big brother/cousins that be in the streets but try to tell the younger brother/cousin to stay out.
But that "do as I say, not as I do" parenting style doesn't work, boys inherently want to be like their dads, especially if it seems like their father is a successful criminal.
Seen it too many times, same thing goes for big brother/cousins that be in the streets but try to tell the younger brother/cousin to stay out.
If you get locked up and you have a child to raise, then yes you failed.
If you a street nikka then yes, your parents failed you.
Being in the streets is not always a matter of environment.
And birthing children into poverty is failure, yes.
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Yea cuz they probably respect your word the most if they know you have respect in the streets, so if you tell them it ain’t nothing in that shyt they’d probably listen to you before anyone else
You gotta expose them to other stuff tho, show them there’s a world outside of the ghetto cuz a lot of kids feel trapped
You gotta expose them to other stuff tho, show them there’s a world outside of the ghetto cuz a lot of kids feel trapped
Most aren’t in their kids life
So if raising children into poverty is failure,what is raising them out of poverty or simply raise them to be good people who live in poverty? My definition of "success" is not tied to the european ideal and standards. Seems that many of you like to completely ignore character. Most people who live in poverty are hard working people who work 9-5's,most are as decent as the average person in this unrighteous world. I just don't think its that cut and dry as you say.
Plus street nikkas get locked up,and its harder to get a job and make ends meet. Some feel they have to turn to crime to feed the family in the meantime,and go right back in. So my point is street dudes bragging about how they made sure they kids didn't go to the streets should shut their mouth. Like I said,if you were a real street dude and not simply moonlighting and dabbling,matter of fact either way you simply got lucky. Because you easily could have been doing life in jail,or in a hole in the ground. Then you would have no say in what your kids became. So those street nikkas patting themsevles on the back in the comments and condemning others who's kids went the other way?I just don't like it.
Plus notice all of these people applauding this statement about fathers,what would happen if we called out the obvious "failure" of single mothers in our community? Pretty sure folks would start coming with all the excuses in the world of how their mama wasn't a failure. Its more nuance and complex then people are admitting. I don't mind this type of energy and holding people accountable at all,but lets not let the buck stop with the fathers. There is alot of blame to go around the entire community as a whole and this country. And crazy I'm saying this since people get mad at me for calling out black men,yet yall don't see the sneak attack here.
Long story short, if you a street dude, do what it takes to not be in or bear those streets and the people who would have you in the midst of bullshyt.
No excuses. You failed. If you are STILL in the streets, the kid didnt have a better chance. My dad was with the shyts but never brought that home. He went into AV installations and photography and videography when I got old enough to ask questions. On the coli though, we have more empathy for poverty stories than anything else quite often.
No excuses. You failed. If you are STILL in the streets, the kid didnt have a better chance. My dad was with the shyts but never brought that home. He went into AV installations and photography and videography when I got old enough to ask questions. On the coli though, we have more empathy for poverty stories than anything else quite often.
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Its literal presidents and CEOs whose fathers/grandfathers were fukking street cats/criminals...... The latest and greatest example is Trump....... I know plenty of old heads that were out there back in the day........ got kids and grandkids going to med school now......
This. Period. Street cats who actually make an effort to provide a better life for their kids have an exit strategy for street life. They get their money, clean up, go legit and get the fukk up out of the streets. Those who refuse are simply setting their seeds up for failure and are only feeding a vicious cycle. You have folks like Master P who started out on street shyt, got his paper up and flipped it into other, legit hustles. Now his kids are even well off even his great granchildren will eat good. He got up out the streets and became an entrepreneur. Then you have cats like Boosie who cant stay away from the streets, are still out here fukking up and are pretty much setting their kids up to follow the same path. shyts sad.
I didnt say it was cut and dry at all. But you asked a direct question and I gave a direct answer. Intentionally bringing a child into poverty is selfish and if we are simply looking at things in a success/fail frame, its a fail. Unnecessary sufferage is just that, unnecessary. Knock the cac babble shyt off breh. We are conversing on man shyt with different ideals and neither has be "warped european standards". No one is "ignoring" character. It simply had nothing to do with conversation. Its not cut and dry, you are right. But that wasnt the question. Most times when questions like this are posed, the real answer is never going to be an "either/or" response. We both seem to know that. But when asked for an either/or answer, you have to give it.
Its not mutually exclusive breh. Yeah, you are right, nikkas get locked up and struggle. That doesnt excuse recognizing your failure in outcomes you mightve been forced into. I ran the streets even at times when I didnt have to and got caught up in it. Ive been locked up for years for something I dont regret and would do again and had to deal with being a "violent offender". I dont have any kids but if I did, I would most definitely have failed them by leaving them for 5yrs to be fatherless in this world for any amount of time for fukkery I was involved in. Doesnt matter how I got there. They suffered from it regardless. I dont have kids but its still a failure on my part because family, friends needed me and opportunities were given away by it. My parents failed me because they could not keep me out the streets when I was a kid. I failed. They failed. I also overcame failure and so did they when I overcame it. We can be a failure and still overcome. Shoutout to Uzumaki gang.
We certainly do need to call out single mothers and anyone else for actions detrimental to the collective. I have no problems doing so. Youre right, theres way more nuance to this and it has complexities that spill well over the sides of this conversation.
At the most basic level? Yeah. He's right.
Your goal as a parent will always be for your children to live a better life than you. If they end up in the street just like you, then yeah.......something went wrong somewhere.
But at the same time, the type of changes that get a family line out of the hood don't always occur in one generation. Unfortunately, sometimes that goal has to be passed down to those that come after to achieve.
Your goal as a parent will always be for your children to live a better life than you. If they end up in the street just like you, then yeah.......something went wrong somewhere.
But at the same time, the type of changes that get a family line out of the hood don't always occur in one generation. Unfortunately, sometimes that goal has to be passed down to those that come after to achieve.
they're the exceptions.
Its literal presidents and CEOs whose fathers/grandfathers were fukking street cats/criminals...... The latest and greatest example is Trump....... I know plenty of old heads that were out there back in the day........ got kids and grandkids going to med school now......
if u have a parent in prison u are more likely to go to prison yourself.
think of it as kids taking on the family profession. like if dad's a dentist you're more likely to be one.
"According to a study conducted by Central Connecticut State University, children of the incarcerated are about three times as likely as other children to be justice-involved"
FAQs About Children of Prisoners - Prison Fellowship
You pops got lucky,the bullshyt could have been bought home to him and his family. Your pops also easily could have been caught and locked away or killed for "being with teh shyts". So lets not be quick to applaud your father for getting lucky.
You have to bring up Europeanized standards that most of us have been brainwashed by. Because you are citing poverty as a failure as if being poor is the problem in our communities. When in fact idolizing the European standard and its moral bankruptcy is the problem. You can't acknowledge the environment as bad and then call out the parent as a failure or the kid is my only problem in what Bibby is saying. You need to call out the hood and all those so called men/ "OG's" you looked up to who steered you wrong as well. Call out the parents not doing all they could do to keep there kids from being problematic,who often got lucky and aren't deemed "failures". Guys doing bullshyt,threatning lives,selling drugs who changed before it was too late,but got other nikkas locked up in the proccess. The fact drug dealers and gang leaders are allowed to operate unchecked without having police called.These same street dudes in the comments bragging about their kids not being street dudes probably influenced too many youth to count,right into jail cell or morgue. Them patting themselves on the back for their kids turning out good?I can't cosign that and think its offensive,add Bibby himself to that too btw. The community/environment and other parents as a whole often are not cooperative to good parents who are trying to raise kids right. Calling poverty a failure insinuates that parents in the suburbs are better parents out the gate. This is a mindstate that often leads blacks and their children into being further Europeanized and assimilated which in itself is a self induced failure,so we have to be careful with that.