Is lil Bibby correct?“If you’re a street nikka and your son is a street nikka you failed as a father

[Scustin Bieburr]

That shouldn't be a controversial statement. Your kids should have a better life than you while respecting your sacrifices and struggle. Being a street nikka means always looking over your shoulder, never even really enjoying your money because if you're caught it's gone. It means having people you used to be cool with distancing themselves from you.

It means only interacting with people if you can get something out of them. A person committed to that life can never know peace, trust, or love for another person. It's a sad, painful existence and one you shouldn't want a child to grow into.

 

[Clive42]

Is Lil Bibby forgetting that real street nikkas get locked up die all the time?How will you then stop your son from being a street nikka?
This is easily said by nikkas who just moonlight as street nikkas. I guess if you are a street nikka then your parents failed you too,becoming a street nikka is just usually a matter of environment. So does being poor and having children into poverty automatically make you a failure? I guess the answer would be potentially.

I kinda agree. These fathers did fail, however we have to be a bit more understanding than that cos it ain't as simple as 'you failed as a father, end of'. A father bringing up a son in a dangerous environment has to work twice as hard to 'raise him right' as a father living in a good environment.

 

[big bun]

He’s right.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

hypothetical guy failed as a father by being a street dude. your kids will do what u do. if u don't want your kids running the streets, then you shouldn't run the streets.

Lead by example but c’mon. You get his point.

 

[3rdWorld]

100%..

If you cant break the chain, cant break the cycle..then you a natural born loser and your family is unfortunately burdened by your being a loser.

 

[Cat piss martini]

Gospel.

 

[invalid]

This guy sums it up right.



A father does what he needs to do so that his family, especially his sons, don’t have to go through the same hardships or overcome the same obstacles that he went through. If you fail to do that, you fail as a father.

Nothing else to be said.

 

[murksiderock]

Is Lil Bibby forgetting that real street nikkas get locked up die all the time?How will you then stop your son from being a street nikka?
This is easily said by nikkas who just moonlight as street nikkas. I guess if you are a street nikka then your parents failed you too,becoming a street nikka is just usually a matter of environment. So does being poor and having children into poverty automatically make you a failure? I guess the answer would be potentially.

Bolded is gold, whole post is 100%. I really don't know why people talk in absolutes; there's dexterity to everything, nothing is "one size fits all" for anything....

 

[invalid]

A father bringing up a son in a dangerous environment has to work twice as hard to 'raise him right' as a father living in a good environment.

I think it’s erroneous to take the stance that one father is doing more work than the other because can’t it be said that the latter has worked twice as hard to keep his son in a good environment than the former? Especially considering that a function of fatherhood is to provide safety and security for his family.

 

[Noriega]

Real statement

Know a lot of smart mfs or athletic mfs that could’ve went somewhere in life but chose to be in the streets because they pops/cousins/uncles stay on hot shyt.

 

[Hannibal Fox]

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This guy sums it up right.



A father does what he needs to do so that his family, especially his sons, don’t have to go through the same hardships or overcome the same obstacles that he went through. If you fail to do that, you fail as a father.

Nothing else to be said.

I'm going to counter that with:

There are lot of fathers who were never involved in the streets, who were able to provide for their sons yet as much as they tried, were unable to prevent them from going down that path.

What now, does that apply to those good fathers too?

I mean Lil Bibby's statement would be true if children didn't age, but seeing as they do and thus become adults, at what point does their own personal responsibility kick in?

To be fair though this issue is multifaceted a good discussion can come from this if the thread doesn't go left.

edit:

And that tweet is so fukking stupid, it doesn't matter if his family is clean or not seeing as his actions can impact them and have devastating consequences, someone needs to take away his internet.

What if his son is offered a top level job somewhere in the financial sector and they run a background check?

His name is flagged because his father has been involved in criminal activity thus preventing his son from getting that job because his son is considered a security risk by proxy, you might laugh but this is a real life phenomena.....what now?

That child misses out on a good paying job due to what, their father being involved in wire fraud 20+ years ago?...... c'mon fam.

 

[UncleTomFord15]

Being a "street nikka" is easily some of the c00nest shyt you can do as a black man.

 

[Clive42]

I think it’s erroneous to take the stance that one father is doing more work than the other because can’t it be said that the latter has worked twice as hard to keep his son in a good environment than the former? Especially considering that a function of fatherhood is to provide safety and security for his family.

I probably weren't clear. What I meant was if you raise your son in a dangerous area, you're basically raising that boy in an environment that can easily influence him to be dangerous too. Whether you're a street dude yourself or not, theres so many things that can easily turn your son and as a father you'll have to confront them more often than in a 'good area' where there won't be as many of those negative influences about.

This ain't to try and act like fathers from the hood have things a million times harder, and you're right, the dad raising their son in a decent area probably had to move mountains (in most cases) to provide that environment for his family. I just agree with the post I responded to, most of these street dudes were born on those same streets. It ain't exactly their fault they were born there, so we can't criticise them and not take that into account.

They just end up fathering kids. Like everyone else in the world.

 

[GreenGhxst]

How many of y'all gone try to refute this

 

[010101]

prepare your children for all potential scenario

some cats go overboard & end up raising food


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