exactly. Bret was the last of an era where taking it seriously was demanded. if everyone still took this shyt as seriously as he did, it would still be mainstream and popular, not some niche joke shyt that we're all low key embarrassed to be into
Is it cringey how serious Bret Hart took wrasslin?
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exactly. Bret was the last of an era where taking it seriously was demanded. if everyone still took this shyt as seriously as he did, it would still be mainstream and popular, not some niche joke shyt that we're all low key embarrassed to be into
This probably the best way to put it. Nothing wrong with taking your job and your craft serious, you should actually be that way. But Bret did take himself way too serious, especially after the screw job. This business will always fukk you over in the end, Bret thought he was above that. I don't think Bret was able to process that the business fukked him like he was a run of the mill mid carder.
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Neither of the losses to the bolded were clean.
The closest he has come to a clean loss was vs. Taker at the 96 Rumble and Diesel in the '95 Rumble (and I'm not sure on that). Both times, the other man hit his finish on him and looked "poised to win" but for whatever reason there wasn't a completed 3 count.
Bret seems bitter because everything that happened to him(in terms of his life) traces back to that day.. I know its the Chris Webber/Nick Anderson effect where it seems one incident is following that persons life forever.. But in Brets case.. He felt betrayed and not appreciated. that he put in work for 14 years, turned down money to jump out of loyalty when alot of Mchmahon's token favorites jumped ship for green pastures, Worked sick, Worked injured only for McMahon to be so much more loyal to a pilled out, lesser drawing, No respect for the business having faggit and his cronies. Plus all of his heel heat getting sucked out by September 97 because now Michaels and HHH were the heels
He then not only gets forced out in his backyard by Mchmahon and Michaels to work in a territory that he didn't wanna be at but that incident is played over and over in mocking fashion over the years in many storylines by the WWE. Plus not to mention people burying him over the years and him not really having nobody to speak for him because Pillman was dead, Bulldog was dead, Owen was dead, Neidhart and him fell out. Vince was sole controller of the industry and the narrative became "Bret was too much of a mark and didn't wanna do business so we do business for him" Plus their was gonna be a Self Destruction type hit piece on Bret before he interviened with that shyt.
Not to mention his personal health issues(Surviving Stroke, Surviving Cancer), losing relatives and friends... Shyts been rough for Bret
He then not only gets forced out in his backyard by Mchmahon and Michaels to work in a territory that he didn't wanna be at but that incident is played over and over in mocking fashion over the years in many storylines by the WWE. Plus not to mention people burying him over the years and him not really having nobody to speak for him because Pillman was dead, Bulldog was dead, Owen was dead, Neidhart and him fell out. Vince was sole controller of the industry and the narrative became "Bret was too much of a mark and didn't wanna do business so we do business for him" Plus their was gonna be a Self Destruction type hit piece on Bret before he interviened with that shyt.
Not to mention his personal health issues(Surviving Stroke, Surviving Cancer), losing relatives and friends... Shyts been rough for Bret
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Yeah but he never put anyone over 100% clean so fukk that geek
How often do we see a heel go over clean on a top babyface
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exactly. Bret was the last of an era where taking it seriously was demanded. if everyone still took this shyt as seriously as he did, it would still be mainstream and popular, not some niche joke shyt that we're all low key embarrassed to be into
Nothing killed wrestling more than the backstage drama getting out onto the dirt sheets and social media.
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You got actors who embed themselves with the police, crackheads and gangbangers for roles, but Bret Hart's the one who takes his job seriouisly?
If anything, I'd argue these cornball ass fakkits these days that were butthurt about what Undertaker said, who are all these cosplay, Anime, videogame workrate flippy hoes who are cringey.
Wrestling used to be real, just like great movies or TV shows are great at being "real", but now it's lame as fukk because everybody's just fukking around.
If anything, I'd argue these cornball ass fakkits these days that were butthurt about what Undertaker said, who are all these cosplay, Anime, videogame workrate flippy hoes who are cringey.
Wrestling used to be real, just like great movies or TV shows are great at being "real", but now it's lame as fukk because everybody's just fukking around.
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And if Nash wasn't 7ft tall, his ass would be selling life insurance.
Dude was lazy, always injured, and arguably the worst WWE champion of the '90s
Exactly
fukk that.
Vince fukked his father and fukked him and his family over in every way possible.
Why couldn't Bret just ask for ONE thing that he was entitled to in his contract after 14 years of service?
I can't believe people are legit trying to justify that piece of shyt VKM doing what he does.
HBK took more clean losses by the end of 92 (including one to Bret in a world title match) than Bret has his whole career
HBK was right for losing his smile, Bret really wanted to have the same main event 2 years in a row just to make his character look better
And I don’t doubt everyone wanted their characters to look good but everyone was willing to take losses except Bret
You’re bringing up who HBK lost the title to, I wasn’t even tombout just title matches. Bret wouldn’t even take a loss in a regular singles match
Funny how Bret wanted to get Austin over so bad but made sure he found a way to do it where he still won the match. An Austin WM13 clean victory over Hitman would have gotten Austin over way more than the way it went down. And Hart could have just attacked him after the match to complete the double turn.
All you did was further prove my point.
Please, Shawn was still basically the guy from The Rockers in '92/'93 like he had a fukking choice
And Bret didn't "refuse" to put people over.
You think guys like Taker and Rock and Austin would speak so lovingly of Bret if he was a politicking ass bytch the way Hogan and HBK were?
You had a lockerroom full of dudes who were ready to quite after the Screwjob because they respected Bret that much.
Taker left Raw and flew out to Bret's house to check on him after that shyt.
Taker taped his fists up and was ready to be Shawn's ass because he wasn't sure that SHAWN would do business against Austin.
That tells you all you need to know.
All the real ones fukk with Bret, not Shawn.
Shawn just has his Kliq hoes who used backstage politics to try to take over the business.
And if Nash wasn't 7ft tall, his ass would be selling life insurance.
Dude was lazy, always injured, and arguably the worst WWE champion of the '90s
Exactly
fukk that.
Vince fukked his father and fukked him and his family over in every way possible.
Why couldn't Bret just ask for ONE thing that he was entitled to in his contract after 14 years of service?
I can't believe people are legit trying to justify that piece of shyt VKM doing what he does.
Please, Shawn was still basically the guy from The Rockers in '92/'93 like he had a fukking choice
And Bret didn't "refuse" to put people over.
You think guys like Taker and Rock and Austin would speak so lovingly of Bret if he was a politicking ass bytch the way Hogan and HBK were?
You had a lockerroom full of dudes who were ready to quite after the Screwjob because they respected Bret that much.
Taker left Raw and flew out to Bret's house to check on him after that shyt.
Taker taped his fists up and was ready to be Shawn's ass because he wasn't sure that SHAWN would do business against Austin.
That tells you all you need to know.
All the real ones fukk with Bret, not Shawn.
Shawn just has his Kliq hoes who used backstage politics to try to take over the business.
The “one” thing he wanted was to still be world champ while being signed to the rival promotion
And why didn’t Taker have that same attitude when Bret didn’t want to drop the title on his way out?
But there’s absolutely no favoritism there right?
HBK might have had his ways but he still ultimately did business with Austin. People tell this story like Taker made Shawn drop the title. Shawn didn’t even know Taker was waiting for him till after he did the clean job to Austin. He didn’t want to drop the title but in the end he did the right thing.
Y’all let y’all personal biases get in the way like females.
If Bret was hesitant to drop the title then in the end decided to do so, y’all would be saying how much respect he has for the business. If Shawn said he didn’t want to drop the title the day before he was leaving for the rival promotion because he didn’t want to lose in Texas y’all would be saying he’s selfish and full of shyt.
Bret literally wanted to be WWF world champ while being signed to WCW
All because he had a personal issue with the guy he was supposed to drop it to. What was his issue with the guy? He didn’t want to do the same WM main event 2 years in a row just to cater to Bret’s ego/character.
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Nothing wrong with taking your craft seriously, thats a stupid take
Now... Bret was a habitual whiner about how he was booked thats his biggest flaw
but artists tend to have these kinds of attitudes
Now... Bret was a habitual whiner about how he was booked thats his biggest flaw
but artists tend to have these kinds of attitudes
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The “one” thing he wanted was to still be world champ while being signed to the rival promotion
And why didn’t Taker have that same attitude when Bret didn’t want to drop the title on his way out?
But there’s absolutely no favoritism there right?
HBK might have had his ways but he still ultimately did business with Austin. People tell this story like Taker made Shawn drop the title. Shawn didn’t even know Taker was waiting for him till after he did the clean job to Austin. He didn’t want to drop the title but in the end he did the right thing.
Y’all let y’all personal biases get in the way like females.
If Bret was hesitant to drop the title then in the end decided to do so, y’all would be saying how much respect he has for the business. If Shawn said he didn’t want to drop the title the day before he was leaving for the rival promotion because he didn’t want to lose in Texas y’all would be saying he’s selfish and full of shyt.
Bret literally wanted to be WWF world champ while being signed to WCW
All because he had a personal issue with the guy he was supposed to drop it to. What was his issue with the guy? He didn’t want to do the same WM main event 2 years in a row just to cater to Bret’s ego/character.
The one thing he wanted was to drop the belt somewhere else.
Vince knew Bret was a straight shooter and a guy who spent his whole life in the business.
He knew Bret wouldn't pull a Medusa and show up on Nitro with the belt.
He always knew he could depend on Bret, even when Nash was always injured, Hall was drinking and drugging himself, and Shawn was being a high-strung ass bytch, who "lost his smile". Taker & Bret were always dependable
Again, you never heard about Taker waiting to beat Bret's ass did you?
You know why that is? Because Mean Mark knows Bret, unlike Shawn was a stand up guy.
You've never heard anybody but Shawn's Kliq butt-buddies talking shyt about Bret or saying he didn't do anything the right way.
And yes, if Shawn was crying about dropping the belt and not wanting to drop it in Texas, there would be a different reaction. You know why?
Because Shawn's been a primadonna ass bytch his whole career.
There's a such thing as having built up a decent reputation over time.
Bret Hart was dependable for over a decade.
Shawn was a politicking ass bytch who ruined Vader's push and even tried to bully & ruin The Rock's push, but Rock had roots too deep in WWE & had too much talent to be buried by Hickenlooper.
Bret earned the right, especially being that he lived up to his end of the bargain and it was Vince who didn't and broke the contract.
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Just wondering. I got respect for Hitgoat but...
Everytime i see old clips and docs, he's the only one who really felt like he was playing a real sport.
But now, he just old somewhere like the rest of his peers and somewhat forgotten
Meanwhile Austin still relevant with 3:16 day and Rock got a tv show.
So you are not suppose to take your career seriously. Gotcha
Ohh Austin and rock have more charisma then Bret. That is why they are still relevant.
OP stays having the WOAT opinions
same clown who said The Fiend >> All 3 faces of Foley
same clown who said The Fiend >> All 3 faces of Foley