Is Group Economics Among Black Americans Just A Pipe Dream?

[cinna_man]

Ok.

Well anyway I want to say something about economics. I think blacks will benefit from group economics by keeping the dollar within the black community, like asians and jews do, but by also taking advantage of what the white man can offer. If the white man can offer you an education, so you can then become a doctor in your own neighborhood, do it.

That's what the asians and indians do. They keep everything within they're own community, but they take full advantage of the american system. The american dream is alive and well for foreigners because they have the kind of drive and ambition to come up from nothin. We have become to complacent.

Blacks are the most segregated ethnicity in America, aside from maybe a few tiny little 1st generation cultures. Indians, Asians, and Jews do not keep everything within their own community. That's nonsense.

 

[cinna_man]

No its because this is a sensitive subject.

IQ is not a perfect measure of intelligence. But I think IQ tests can serve as some sort of marker for intelligence. People are only in denial because it hurts their feelings plain and simple.

You're the one in denial now. No science = no knowledge.



I'm out of this conversation.

 

[bigDeeOT]

How are you going to study intelligence among different cultures when morality is so relative? Even IQ studies are crap, in my opinion. You need to come up with an empirical way of actually studying intelligence if you want to get anywhere with your point.

Why are people hostile towards you? Not because you're bringing up an unpopular opinion. You're conjecturing bullshyt without evidence to back it up. The same would happen in a physics forum if someone came in and started talking about extra dimensions and frequencies that aliens live on or some shyt.

And either way my point still remains because I also mentioned the tendency to commit violent crimes. I believe blacks are predisposed to be, on average, short tempered and violent people. It is hard for blacks to civilized. The only evidence I have is the world we live in. It's not proof, but then again there is no proof against what I'm saying either. I do not accept the default position to be one where all races are the same.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Blacks are the most segregated ethnicity in America, aside from maybe a few tiny little 1st generation cultures. Indians, Asians, and Jews do not keep everything within their own community. That's nonsense.

Ok they don't keep it ALL in their own community but they do flip it around a few times in their own before it goes to the white man. When it comes to black people, the only time its flipped is when they go to the barber shop.

Here in dallas there are areas where asians have literally everything they need to survive except possibly a large bank. They have doctors offices, dental, all kinds of restaurants, a mall with a grocery store and lots of shops inside, it's wonderful.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Blacks are the most segregated ethnicity in America, aside from maybe a few tiny little 1st generation cultures. Indians, Asians, and Jews do not keep everything within their own community. That's nonsense.

Blacks are segregated but they give all their money to the arab and indian owned shops within the black community. Blacks do not work together.

 

[cinna_man]

And either way my point still remains because I also mentioned the tendency to commit violent crimes. I believe blacks are predisposed to be, on average, short tempered and violent people. It is hard for blacks to civilized. The only evidence I have is the world we live in. It's not proof, but then again there is no proof against what I'm saying either. I do not accept the default position to be one where all races are the same.

Tons of Africans in Africa live peacefully, without short tempers or violence. Sure, some warlords reign terror on everyone else there, but the same happens in every 3rd world country. Look at South America. And some random acts of violence occur, but look at the Native Americans when the Euros came. The natives would lead random war parties against themselves and against the Euros. The Euros thought they were barbarian, vicious b*stards, but they just didn't understand why those things happened.
In actuality, Native Americans were quite peaceful before the Euros came along. Same could be said for Africans in Africa.

You should read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. He explains very well why tribal violence occurs. We're no different than any other animal in the animal kingdom. When we lived in tribes, we had to compete for resources. If there were too many people, people would go hungry and die. Intermittent violence between tribes was to maintain population control.

 

[cinna_man]

Ok they don't keep it ALL in their own community but they do flip it around a few times in their own before it goes to the white man. When it comes to black people, the only time its flipped is when they go to the barber shop.

Here in dallas there are areas where asians have literally everything they need to survive except possibly a large bank. They have doctors offices, dental, all kinds of restaurants, a mall with a grocery store and lots of shops inside, it's wonderful.

Why do they need to worry about giving the money to the white man. What's he gonna do, buy a bunch of white masks and pitchfords?

Like I said, I'm done.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Tons of Africans in Africa live peacefully, without short tempers or violence. Sure, some warlords reign terror on everyone else there, but the same happens in every 3rd world country. Look at South America. And some random acts of violence occur, but look at the Native Americans when the Euros came. The natives would lead random war parties against themselves and against the Euros. The Euros thought they were barbarian, vicious b*stards, but they just didn't understand why those things happened.
In actuality, Native Americans were quite peaceful before the Euros came along. Same could be said for Africans in Africa.

You should read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. He explains very well why tribal violence occurs. We're no different than any other animal in the animal kingdom. When we lived in tribes, we had to compete for resources. If there were too many people, people would go hungry and die. Intermittent violence between tribes was to maintain population control.

The native americans did not sell their own people into slavery like africans. Africans have always been violent with each other.

Tribal violence is no excuse in this day and age. All black people in africa should be working together to fight european domination and yet they still can't get their act together. For some reason blacks just have a hard time seeing into the long term future.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Why do they need to worry about giving the money to the white man. What's he gonna do, buy a bunch of white masks and pitchfords?

Like I said, I'm done.

What? The key to success is economic mobility. The reason why you want the money to stay within your own community is so your people can achieve economic mobility faster. If money is always going straight to the white man, blacks will continue to have high rates of poverty.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

There is not one single study in the world that proves that racial groups have exactly identical levels of intelligence. There is not a single study to show that blacks and asians have exactly the same genetic tendency to be violent.

The closest thing a scientist will say is that there is not enough evidence to conclude that one race is more intelligent than another or that one race is more civilized than others. That doesn't mean the premise is false, it just means there's not enough evidence for it.

See people seem to think that the DEFAULT position is to assume that racial groups are all genetically identical, with no group having advantages over the other. Why is that the default position? Oh I know why, because it makes us feel good to assume we're all on the same plane. Once you start comparing people to one another, negative tension arises.

 

[Serious]

@Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

 

[No_bammer_weed]

And either way my point still remains because I also mentioned the tendency to commit violent crimes. I believe blacks are predisposed to be, on average, short tempered and violent people. It is hard for blacks to civilized. The only evidence I have is the world we live in. It's not proof, but then again there is no proof against what I'm saying either. I do not accept the default position to be one where all races are the same.

Your point does not remain, because you are attributing claims that nobody here has made, and you're arguing against them. We have not argued that "all races are the same', we have continued to argue that the constitutions and qualities of human beings are quite complex, and we have provided HARD SCIENCE proving that attributing cognitive and behavioral traits in concordance to skin color, holds the same genetic significance as attributing traits to eye color or hair texture. You are committed to empirically worthless ideas. It has been proven there is more genetic variability between "races" than externally among other supported facts, contrary to your obnoxious beliefs, that have survived decades of rigorous testing by men and women you couldnt hold and intellectual candle to.

I think we're way past the point of establishing that you cant provide anything of extrinsic value or merit. I would have written you off long ago had it not been for the fact that you are verifiably who you say you are, and I was hoping against hope that somewhere in your being resided some sort of reason. I am fully convinced that you are a sadist, and capable of inflicting great harm to this world and others. You are clearly mentally ill, with an unhealthy mind, I for one will not expose myself to such delusions any more. Good luck with life, because you're gunna need it.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Ight peace out

 

[Blackking]

The native americans did not sell their own people into slavery like africans. Africans have always been violent with each other.
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I was under the impression that some native american tribes fought and detained others, eventually, after forming alliances with cac devils. Am I incorrect?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I was under the impression that some native american tribes fought and detained others, eventually, after forming alliances with cac devils. Am I incorrect?

No you are not. In colonialism/imperialism, there are always collaborators.