Is Group Economics Among Black Americans Just A Pipe Dream?

[Everythingg]

We can't run tho, they are everywhere!

Only God is everywhere friend.

 

[bigDeeOT]

I will name 5:
Luanda, Angola (considered the most expensive place to live in the world)

N’Djamena, Chad
Libreville, Gabon
Niamey, Niger
Victoria, Seychelles

I feel no desire to debate you. Even if you are black I would encourage you to purchase skin lightening cream. You see the world through white lenses and I care not to change that view. But consider the fact that black people were forced to this country as slaves and stripped of their identity. When they finally gained their 'freedom' they were treated as second class citizens. Denied opportunites for job, loans and higher education because of their skin color (fact). Successful communities that were developed were attacked and destroyed. Community leaders that attempted to bring black people together were assassinated. Images in media portrayed us as servants and jungle savages...Yet after all of these attacks and injustices and denied opportunites you question our intelligence? You question why others who have never faced these injustices are in better positions than us? The civil rights act in this country was passed 50 years ago, yet we should be at the same level as those who had the same civil rights in the country for 400 years? And even in 2014 black people are denied job interviews because the names on their resume sound ethic. And you question us? How dare you

Let me be clear on this breh you disgust me. I pray you bleach your skin and marry a white woman and have light children, and they go on to marry white women until every trace of black that you 'claim' exists in you is erased.

Again, you're attitude here is proof-positive that black people are less civilized. You telling me I shouldn't be a black person is unnecessary. But this is what black people do to other blacks with radically different opinions. Within the black community, there can be no diversity of beliefs.

And as proof for this, just look at Africa. People in Africa have a hard time getting themselves together because once a group of africans have radically different beliefs, they cannot simply say agree to disagree, and try to compromise. No, they denounce the other tribes as not worthy of breathing life on this earth. They believe that because the other tribe has a different opinion, they should die.

 

[Kritic]

I will name 5:
Luanda, Angola (considered the most expensive place to live in the world)

N’Djamena, Chad
Libreville, Gabon
Niamey, Niger
Victoria, Seychelles

I feel no desire to debate you. Even if you are black I would encourage you to purchase skin lightening cream. You see the world through white lenses and I care not to change that view. But consider the fact that black people were forced to this country as slaves and stripped of their identity. When they finally gained their 'freedom' they were treated as second class citizens. Denied opportunites for job, loans and higher education because of their skin color (fact). Successful communities that were developed were attacked and destroyed. Community leaders that attempted to bring black people together were assassinated. Images in media portrayed us as servants and jungle savages...Yet after all of these attacks and injustices and denied opportunites you question our intelligence? You question why others who have never faced these injustices are in better positions than us? The civil rights act in this country was passed 50 years ago, yet we should be at the same level as those who had the same civil rights in the country for 400 years? And even in 2014 black people are denied job interviews because the names on their resume sound ethic. And you question us? How dare you

Let me be clear on this breh you disgust me. I pray you bleach your skin and marry a white woman and have light children, and they go on to marry white women until every trace of black that you 'claim' exists in you is erased.

even though I think that dude isn't black, after years of being whitewashed some ppl/personalities give in. It's a nice hustle/lane for those ppl because the establishment relates to them and uses those house negros like allen west to rule over other blacks.

given the choice a white person will find a reason to go with the tom.

 

[bigDeeOT]

I will name 5:
Luanda, Angola (considered the most expensive place to live in the world)

N’Djamena, Chad
Libreville, Gabon
Niamey, Niger
Victoria, Seychelles

I will check into those cities so thanks for the list.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Let see, Luanda is not a good example because although it is the most expensive city, most people live in poverty. And a good percentage of the people working in the city are professional expats from other countries.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/01/travel/day-and-a-night-luanda/

Also check out this link
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...fricas-poorest-worlds-costliest/#.Ux1Rj-ddWWg

According to the headlines of a slew of international media outlets that really should know better – including the Huffington Post and TIME – Luanda, Angola, is the world’s most expensive city. It’s not. Well, it might be, but that’s not what the Mercer Cost of Living Survey, on which the reports were based, was measuring.

Luanda is the most expensive city in the world for expatriates. The survey’s designed for companies who want to do business in other countries, and need to factor in the costs of sending staff there. It measures things like the rent of a three-bedroom villa in an adequately secure environment, the cost of sending a child to an international school and the price of a meal in a good restaurant. The figures that inform the report would be completely alien to most of Luanda’s residents, who live below the poverty datum line.

 

[MostReal]

Sometimes I believe that group economics is just a bunch of hype to give black people hope that one day we'll be able to prosper in the U.S. But I think that deep down a lot of us know that it'll never become a reality.

I bet some of the slaves thought slavery ending was a pipe dream too

 

[bigDeeOT]

http://data.worldbank.org/country/chad

Dude chad has a life expectancy of 50 years old and 47% of the population lives in poverty.

@Hawaiian Punch I found out where you got the list of african countries. You found it from a list of top ten african most expensive cities for expatriates. You just straight copy and pasted it from a list that has very little to do with what we are talking about. You did absolutely no research into these countries and couldn't tell me the first thing about em. What a joke. I'm not even gonna bother to put in the time to debunk the rest of the list with you coming up with this junk.

 

[Serious]

@Insensitive @No_bammer_weed

 

[cinna_man]

Too segmented to quote

Why would you say racial groups are not equals? I think we can have minor differences like skin color, limb ratio, etc, and still be equals.

Before I delve into sprinting, football, etc etc... Think for a second: how many white or Asian or Middle Eastern people care about sprinting? Is it within their culture to really give a damn as they're growing up? Not at all.

Let's look at the sprinting example once again. Where in the world would .5 seconds in a 100m dash make a significant difference in one's life? And considering that you might only run a 11 or 12 or 15 sec 100m dash like most of the population, what are the chances that you'll even get that close to your genetic potential?

And as I said, longer limb ratios make the difference in running. So does a slightly higher % of quick twitch muscle fibers. But you and others act like this happens in a vacuum. Realize that longer limbs make it harder to lift and move weight (which is a highly practical activity), and a higher % of quick twitch muscle fibers leads to less stamina. Economics are always at play in these evolutive genetic "decisions". Everything has it's drawbacks.

If you want to look at athletics that more accurately depict real world situations, pay attention to martial arts (like boxing and MMA) and special operations military units (like Navy SEALs, Green Berets, Selous Scouts, Britain's SAS, Russia's Spetsnaz). All of a sudden, there's racial parity. The tiny differences like limb ratio that are magnified on playing fields with tons of rules... They're diminished when the rules go away and people can adapt to what they have. This is the way of nature, and this is why there is not a race in the world that's inferior athletically when it comes to real life situations.

Let's go back to your contention here:

I don't believe this. How much longer do we have to wait before we can finally conclude that blacks are predisposed to act violent, have a tendency to be uncivilized, and are overall less intelligent than whites? If in three THOUSAND years from now, we still have a huge IQ gap between blacks and whites, would you still blame that on the legacy of slavery or cultural differences? If in three THOUSAND years from now, blacks still account for a disproportionate amount of violent crime in this country, would you still blame that on the legacy of slavery? How long do we have to wait for the gaps to close?

Can you name a single tribe of people that have integrated successfully into a civilization within 300 years? Blacks cannot be looked down upon yet for failing to succeed in America. This is why affirmative action is important.

Here's an assumption you might be making that is wrong: civilization is better, so why didn't Africans have advanced civilizations in Africa ever (aside from Egypt which is far away from most regions of Africa and the Songhai empire which lasted a few decades)? Well, on the contrary, civilization is a shyttier lifestyle than the tribal lifestyle. It's only been in the past 500 years that civilization has really been worth something. The scientific method was invented in the 1500s, and since then, we've begun to develop great industry/machines/technology that has fundamentally changed human potential. Now, we might be able to travel to other solar systems and have colonies there.

Prior to all that? I'm taking tribal living everyday of the week. I don't blame Africans AT ALL for staying tribal because it's a superior way of life to pre-modern civilization.

In 3,000 years, there won't even be a way to measure IQ gap between races. By that point, assuming major immigration movements haven't happened, all the genetics of separate races will have integrated, and there will be one 'race'. Same goes for culture, obviously; people's choice of culture will not be split largely upon racial lines.

White people in america eat junk food too.

It might be normalizing a bit in the past 10 years or so, but historically, white people have had different junk food. White people have always been more concerned with their figures because they exercise less. Therefore, they eat less fat/protein, and they grow less.

The primary group of white people that eat more fat and protein? People from rural areas. And let me tell you, there's a reason 'country strong' is a thing.

I think it is a combination of genetics and environment. Environment plays the largest role by far, but the genetics acts as the ceiling. Without the right genetics, you're less likely to hit the professional league vs someone who's gifted.

Once again: epigenetics. Do you really know what is the result of different genes and simply different expression of the same genes? You probably don't, so you're jumping to conclusions.

Why do people accept that racial groups have physical differences but not mental differences? Asians on average have smaller penises than blacks do. Clearly there are physical differences among racial groups. So why can't there be mental ones? Why would nature draw an imaginary boundary and say ok, let there be physical differences among races but no mental ones? That doesn't make any sense.

We went to the penises... Ok, Asians are also the shortest race in the world, and height is the only strong indicator of penis size. So are they genetically short and penis-short? They eat the least fat and protein of all the major races too, so unlikely.

The Plains Indians, when the Europeans met them in the 1600s, were the the most virile people on the planet at that time. They lived off of buffalo meat and fat (look up and try pemmican if you're curious), so they had excellent nutrition. They averaged 6' or more in height and were hung like horses. Europeans averaged like 5'4"-5'6" at that time, so these Plains Indians were giants and quite embarrassing to their egos.

Guess what? Plains Indians' closest genetic relatives are Asians.

 

[daemonova]

i don't know what exactly group economics is, but if you are talking about independant black economic ecosystem, its not going to happen, someone cited maryland and atl as examples, those are nothing more than extended plantations for us to live, sleep and rest when we are not spending money in white folks land, yes, there are sellouts that will do anything to cater to the white man, but the entire game is designed for us not to be independent, the easier decision is to cater to the white man

 

[cinna_man]

someone cited maryland and atl as examples, those are nothing more than extended plantations for us to live, sleep and rest when we are not spending money in white folks land, yes, there are sellouts that will do anything to cater to the white man, but the entire game is designed for us not to be independent, the easier decision is to cater to the white man

 

[Drummage_EL]

I bet some of the slaves though slavery ending was a pipe dream too

Shut the fukk up with that weak ass rebuttal. Slavery NEVER ended!

 

[Drummage_EL]

@bigDeeOT is obviously not black. He's probably a st0rmfr0nt troll. I've seen him in other threads on thecoli making bigoted statements about black people being savages. You can't reason with a white supremacist.

 

[MostReal]

Shut the fukk up with that weak ass rebuttal. Slavery NEVER ended!

you got lashes on your back nikka?

nah they in your head though

 

[ProfessionallyTrill]

@bigDeeOT