Frank Herbert and HP Lovecraft = THE Sci Fi Gawds
is Dune still the GOAT science fiction novel
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southpawstyle
Superstar
We have a bunch of his original manuscripts in the archives at our library. I bet that shyt is worth so much money
In the year since I made this post I started an internship in the archives and my first assignment was digitizing Herbert's rough drafts for the first 3 books. It was insane to see the notes he made in margins. I scanned the original hand written language, religion, and index of the book. It's going on an open source website for other researchers. So dope.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Camile.Bidan
Banned
I feel like dune shows us a world of biological superiority.
Meaning... We don't need computers and shouldn't need computers to achieve greatness
I listened to Bob Lazar's story once, and it could be fake or real, I don't know... But he did mention the UFO had no electronics and no computers. He could be lying or telling truth. However, I wonder if computers and electronics are actually a detriment to our progress. What if AI and robots are that final seiv that keeps civilizations from advancing?
There are humans that can mentally outpace computers in regards to calculations. what if we all could do that? Would we need computers? Computers and AI makes us mentally lazy.
If CrispR and GWAS are allowed to progress without political interference, I think we could achieve greatness never before imagined
It was the breeding programs of the great schools that led to Paul and his offspring
Meaning... We don't need computers and shouldn't need computers to achieve greatness
I listened to Bob Lazar's story once, and it could be fake or real, I don't know... But he did mention the UFO had no electronics and no computers. He could be lying or telling truth. However, I wonder if computers and electronics are actually a detriment to our progress. What if AI and robots are that final seiv that keeps civilizations from advancing?
There are humans that can mentally outpace computers in regards to calculations. what if we all could do that? Would we need computers? Computers and AI makes us mentally lazy.
If CrispR and GWAS are allowed to progress without political interference, I think we could achieve greatness never before imagined
It was the breeding programs of the great schools that led to Paul and his offspring
I personally believe our greatest chance at progression is a merger between the biology and technology.
Becoming cyborgs is our best chance.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Good condensed version of the books
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this is interesting, dude is black, im not gonna lie, i thought dude was white too
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I ain't never read Lovecraft and probably never will. Apparently his insane racism fed his sci fi horror - it's all about White Supremacy terrified of the world.
We Can’t Ignore H.P. Lovecraft’s White Supremacy
Herbert is one of my favorite ever, even if a lot of his themes are regressive as hell and basically framed around his faith in power.
Anybody read 3 Body Problem and The Dark Forest? Chinese scifi is so refreshing!
Here's my flopped thread on all the scifi I've read, if anyone wants to chop it up:
Great Scott's Sci-Fi Books Thread
Here's my flopped thread on all the scifi I've read, if anyone wants to chop it up:
Great Scott's Sci-Fi Books Thread
GnauzBookOfRhymes
Superstar
gotta read it now...huge foundations series fan
Tribaligenesis
All Star
Read them all.....pure piff.
The Dune series had a spark when it started, then........
The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov >>>>>>> Dune.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
thats actually the opposite of what he was trying to show
The whole purpose of Leto's Golden Path is to ensure no one force will ever control humanity
I may be being too harsh,but I think that fanboy is being too soft as well. While Herbert obviously dwells on the corruptible nature of power, the novels implicitly carry the assumption that certain people are better, stronger, or more equipped than others to hold power and these are the ones who change the direction of civilization. Duke Leto, Paul, Leto II, they're all heroes even with their flaws, and it's almost impossible to read those books without idolizing them. Even Leto's Golden Path was supposed to "teach humanity" not to put their faith in a central power, but notice that it was the most powerful figure in the world who was "teaching them" that and he did it by taking on incredible, unprecedented power. Even Chapterhouse: Dune (as far as I got in the series) ends with Murbella taking on ultimate power in fusing the Bene Gesserit and Honored Matres together.
That guy has a GREAT channel. Even though Dune isn't my thing and that channel is Dune heavy. Hopefully he moves on eventually.