Is Chance The Rapper the greatest industry plant of all time?

[L&HH]

Idk about Interscope.

But not every "independent" artist can have their dad make one phone call & have their son signed to a management company that it is probably worth more than most majors & able to cut a 5 figure check to get their career started.

Is Chance signed to a Major Record Label? No.

Is he signed to a Major Corporation? Yes.

Basically what I said in my first post on the first page. I'd rather have CAA backing me than any major especially if you have your own means of financing.

 

[cdaw]

Kendrick Lamar - O.D. (Mixtape) | 2DOPEBOYZ

2dopeboyz is a top hiphop blog that posted it.

Didn't OD sell 12K copies

Which is the same amount of copies Game sold of 1992?

 

[TheRtist]

Didn't OD sell 12K copies

Which is the same amount of copies Game sold of 1992?

hilarious.

but its two different eras my dude.

 

[cdaw]

dude. I typically cosign you and on your side with the Kendrick exposals but now I realized you got issues. Kendrick was doing shows way back then. Its no secret.

Dude has mental and social issues

Google
site:thecoli.com "sirbiatch" "Kendrick"

13,600 results

 

[Easy-E]

Rita was also signed to Roc Nation as an artist.




He released them as an exclusive release. They distributed them. I said this on the last page. If he records an album and apple says "cool, we'll pay you if we can debut it on Apple music" and that's it, then that's dope as fukk. Apple is literally doing nothing else but releasing it and recouping through subscribers.

There's no advance as a loan. There's no owning of masters. There's no 360 deal. There's literally nothing that makes it a label. He's making these deals and music independent of a label.

So he's still independent in most people's eyes. But we can agree to disagree, bruh.

And you're right about the streaming but look at young thug. He's signed and is essentially a streaming only artist but because he's signed to a label, he can't even release hitunes. He is obligated to a label and how they want to release. Chance can literally drop whenever he wants and he's essentially a streaming only artist, too.

:baldD:

1. You hit me wiht the "agree to disagree"
2. You bring up another artist that everyone knows has one of the rawest deals ever (I think Gucci still gets paid from him from before I'm a Stoner). I never purported to know the details of the break down of his deal. You claim to know, tho.
3. You keep pushing this "struggling artist" thing in reference to Apple, like they just wanted a couple thousand and were happy to help him make the lionshare of the profit

We may as well stop going back and forth. You win.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Basically what I said in my first post on the first page. I'd rather have CAA backing me than any major especially if you have your own means of financing.

Basically. If my dad could cut me a check for me to spend on my career & I had a management company attached to some of the biggest names in Hollywood why would I sign to a Record Label?

You get the same phone book with less politics & expectations...

 

[Easy-E]

Idk about Interscope.

But not every "independent" artist can have their dad make one phone call & have their son signed to a management company that it is probably worth more than most majors & able to cut a 5 figure check to get their career started.

Is Chance signed to a Major Record Label? No.

Is he signed to a Major Corporation? Yes.

The only point I'm trying to make.

 

[L&HH]

nikkas act like Chance's father was the goddamn vice president. What clout does he have in the entertainment industry?

Do you not understand how politics encompasses everything? Justin Beiber passed on a $5 million check to perform at the RNC because his manager was a Hilary fan/supporter.

CAA the agency Chance is with has spent $600,000 contributing to campaigns this election cycle
iHeartMedia has spent $760,000
ASCAP has spent $440,000 lobbying
iHeartmedia has spent $2.2 million lobbying
Live Nation $100,000
Warner Music Group $338,000
vivendi/universal has spent $1 million lobbying this past year

But even with that, it's not about what clout his father has, it's about the agency CAA he's represented by. How'd he as a relatively unknown unaccomplished person be able to pull that off? But then you see that CAA donated $600,000 to democrats this past year

Lobbying Spending Database TV/Movies/Music, 2016 | OpenSecrets

 

[Easy-E]

Do you not understand how politics encompasses everything? Justin Beiber passed on a $5 million check to perform at the RNC because his manager was a Hilary fan/supporter.

CAA the agency Chance is with has spent $600,000 contributing to campaigns this election cycle
iHeartMedia has spent $760,000
ASCAP has spent $440,000 lobbying
iHeartmedia has spent $2.2 million lobbying
Live Nation $100,000
Warner Music Group $338,000
vivendi/universal has spent $1 million lobbying this past year

But even with that, it's not about what clout his father has, it's about the agency CAA he's represented by. How'd he as a relatively unknown unaccomplished person be able to pull that off? But then you see that CAA donated $600,000 to democrats this past year

Lobbying Spending Database TV/Movies/Music, 2016 | OpenSecrets

Thread like these remind me that most posters havnt even graduated college, let alone are mature to understand the subterfuge that exist in business.

Like people think the concept of an industry plant is THAT absurd.

Meanwhile, Iggy Azalea has a career because of "New Payola," and her fans would call you crazy for saying they only like Fancy because it was played 50leven times throughout the country because label paid for it.

 

[SirBiatch]

dude. I typically cosign you and on your side with the Kendrick exposals but now I realized you got issues. Kendrick was doing shows way back then. Its no secret.

Leave the personals, drop the review links. If you can't, just say you can't.

 

[Piff Perkins]

you're furio

Breh, it's simple: facts have receipts. Stories are cool and all that, but receipts matter.

LOL at repeating "Kendrick had a nice buzz" like a duncecap and having zero receipts for it.

Those who lived it remember it. Cole, Kendrick, KRIT, etc all had nice buzz and build loyal fanbases before their first albums dropped. Roc Nation thought Cole would kinda flop but anyone who was around at the time knew his first album would do well regardless of the single...and it did. Likewise Interscope wasn't super confident about GKMC despite Swimming Pools being big...yet it did even better than Cole's first album. The industry hasn't been the same since.

Not to toot my own horn but I worked in the record label industry (I hate calling it the music industry). I saw this shyt first hand.

Ironically the albums from that time that "flopped" were KRIT and Rocky. In KRIT's case it was label bullshyt/not believing in the artist+no good singles, and in Rocky's case it was him not being in the oven long enough to develop a big enough fanbase to sustain him out the gate like Cole and Kendrick.

 

[Hammer]

i've never heard a song by him on the radio

 

[Rembrandt]

Do you not understand how politics encompasses everything? Justin Beiber passed on a $5 million check to perform at the RNC because his manager was a Hilary fan/supporter.

CAA the agency Chance is with has spent $600,000 contributing to campaigns this election cycle
iHeartMedia has spent $760,000
ASCAP has spent $440,000 lobbying
iHeartmedia has spent $2.2 million lobbying
Live Nation $100,000
Warner Music Group $338,000
vivendi/universal has spent $1 million lobbying this past year

But even with that, it's not about what clout his father has, it's about the agency CAA he's represented by. How'd he as a relatively unknown unaccomplished person be able to pull that off? But then you see that CAA donated $600,000 to democrats this past year

Lobbying Spending Database TV/Movies/Music, 2016 | OpenSecrets

he was already connected to vic mensa/kids these days (which were kinda big), he put out #10Day which was big, he was on Donald Glover's mixtape and was on tour with him before CAA represented him. that's a relatively unknown unaccomplished person to you?

 

[grandpianos]

Do you not understand how politics encompasses everything? Justin Beiber passed on a $5 million check to perform at the RNC because his manager was a Hilary fan/supporter.

CAA the agency Chance is with has spent $600,000 contributing to campaigns this election cycle
iHeartMedia has spent $760,000
ASCAP has spent $440,000 lobbying
iHeartmedia has spent $2.2 million lobbying
Live Nation $100,000
Warner Music Group $338,000
vivendi/universal has spent $1 million lobbying this past year

But even with that, it's not about what clout his father has, it's about the agency CAA he's represented by. How'd he as a relatively unknown unaccomplished person be able to pull that off? But then you see that CAA donated $600,000 to democrats this past year

Lobbying Spending Database TV/Movies/Music, 2016 | OpenSecrets

damn near the entire entertainment industry supports the democratic party. damn near all their kids try to get on as entertainers themselves.

why is chance the only person to blow like he has?

 

[L&HH]

he was already connected to vic mensa/kids these days (which were kinda big), he put out #10Day which was big, he was on Donald Glover's mixtape and was on tour with him before CAA represented him. that's a relatively unknown unaccomplished person to you?

Really? That's no where near enough to get represented by the biggest and most elite agency in Hollywood.

There are just four ways of getting noticed by CAA.

The most common is getting poached from a smaller agency who has made the investment in building up your career to the point where CAA is confident they can seduce you through their vast influence and reputation. Most moviestars of today have gone through this scenario by diligently working on their craft and expanding their resume of credits on film and TV. This is unfortunate for smaller agents, but it's just an inevitability that most of these agents have come to accept.

The next most common is getting referred to CAA for representation through a friend and/or trusted acquaintance who is already repped by CAA or has a good relationship with an agent at CAA such as a manager or lawyer. This is how I got representation at CAA as my good friend Scott Mebus had just become a client at CAA as a writer/producer at the time.

The third way of getting noticed by CAA is by winning a major film festival such as Toronto or Sundance or major competition such as the Academy Nicholl Fellowships orKCACTF. Any Nichols Fellowship winner is offered blind representation by any of the major agencies (CAA, WME, UTA, ICM).

The fourth way of getting noticed is by capturing the cultural zeitgeist through producing viral videos (millions of views) on YouTube - one big one most often isn't enough. Jenna Marbles, Kian Lawley, and Timothy DeLaGhetto are beneficiaries of that endeavor.

Another way of getting noticed by CAA is by calling them and being persistent - but you will be added into their database of people who are regarded as annoying neophytes to the industry who wouldn't know how to make a peanut butter sandwich with a jar of Jif and a bag of bread. You wouldn't want to know what are said about these people behind closed doors by agents and assistants alike. DON'T call them - they'll call you.

CAA is and has been the most elite agency in Hollywood for years and are simply unapproachable unless you are referred to them or recognized. But don't worry - with over 1500 employees working offices in 9 major cities all over the world they have their eyes and ears peeled for people who manage to illustrate that they are a polished talent ready to establish a career in the arts.

The bolded is the only criteria Chance would have been able to meet prior to signing.
How to get noticed by CAA talent agency? Does that differ from other agencies - Quora

damn near the entire entertainment industry supports the democratic party. damn near all their kids try to get on as entertainers themselves.

why is chance the only person to blow like he has?

in the very first post I said he's represented by CAA, that's why. He's also talented so that certainly helps too.