Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?

Elle Driver

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Exactly. That's why I don't believe in the concept of allies. No ally is going to bolster you economically to compete with them. No outside group is going to give you anything without strings attached that benefit them. But too many of us would rather beg whites to change so we can avoid the work of building our own because on a mental level many of us are afraid to compete and we don't want to admit it. I have conversations all the time with people about gaining power to change things and I always notice people's passivity and timidness in acquiring it (especially black men).

It's hard to fight for your community when you struggle to acquire the basic necessities for survival (food, shelter, water). When you look back at some of the most influential leaders and movements of the day, so many of them struggled to keep going because they lacked resources. Garvey, MLK, Malcolm, Amos Wilson, and many others died penniless. And sometimes I feel as though they died for nothing because we are currently making the same mistakes they did decades ago.
My mom left my dad for one of those reasons. Your life really falls apart for being an activist. You become selfless to a crazy degree. You start to think you're actually going crazy. I don't think they died for nothing, they realized life is more than the corporate and capitalist culture. The culture of the west sucks the life out of you. I went to Africa with my fam, and I can't tell you how refreshed and alive I felt. But even then those destitute people lack the basics, although they seemed very happy.
 

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My mom left my dad for one of those reasons. Your life really falls apart for being an activist. You become selfless to a crazy degree. You start to think you're actually going crazy. I don't think they died for nothing, they realized life is more than the corporate and capitalist culture. The culture of the west sucks the life out of you. I went to Africa with my fam, and I can't tell you how refreshed and alive I felt. But even then those destitute people lack the basics, although they seemed very happy.

That's so true. The mission your working towards becomes bigger than everything around you. You sacrifice so much of yourself and most of the time your work won't be rewarded or recognized. When I was really active years ago, I realized that others like myself worked so hard but yet we had little to no money to buy basic shyt. We could barely pay the rent and buy food. And the people we were working hard for didn't have much of anything either. They gave what they could because they saw how hard we would advocate for them. Western society causes you to forsake your dignity for a paycheck to keep the lights on and your belly semi-full. It never gives you resources to fight the system.

I don't think they died for nothing in regards to what they personally sacrificed, but I do feel as though they died in vain thinking that the later generations would pick up the torch and continue the work they started. I don't think that has happened (Even though many would disagree with me there).

I felt the same way when I visited Africa for the first time. I felt at peace, like I was home. But I wasn't ignorant to the resources they were lacking, but they weren't consumed by the constant need of materialist comfort that were used to here in the west. Africans on the continent truly are a welcoming and accepting people.
 

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That's so true. The mission your working towards becomes bigger than everything around you. You sacrifice so much of yourself and most of the time your work won't be rewarded or recognized. When I was really active years ago, I realized that others like myself worked so hard but yet we had little to no money to buy basic shyt. We could barely pay the rent and buy food. And the people we were working hard for didn't have much of anything either. They gave what they could because they saw how hard we would advocate for them. Western society causes you to forsake your dignity for a paycheck to keep the lights on and your belly semi-full. It never gives you resources to fight the system.

I don't think they died for nothing in regards to what they personally sacrificed, but I do feel as though they died in vain thinking that the later generations would pick up the torch and continue the work they started. I don't think that has happened (Even though many would disagree with me there).

I felt the same way when I visited Africa for the first time. I felt at peace, like I was home. But I wasn't ignorant to the resources they were lacking, but they weren't consumed by the constant need of materialist comfort that were used to here in the west. Africans on the continent truly are a welcoming and accepting people.
I agree, I don't think the works been continued, just that groups have co-opted it to continue the agenda (gays, transgendered).

I went to Ethiopia to visit my mother there. Although the government has its issues, the people were so welcoming. I avoided that part of my heritage for a bit and I'm glad I finally went out there.
 

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I agree, I don't think the works been continued, just that groups have co-opted it to continue the agenda (gays, transgendered).

I went to Ethiopia to visit my mother there. Although the government has its issues, the people were so welcoming. I avoided that part of my heritage for a bit and I'm glad I finally went out there.

That's wassup. It's always good to connect to the root of who you are. I've always thought of doing those DNA tests but never got around to it.
 
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I'm not victim blaming, but sometimes it's best to be covert with your actions. I been said most activists die for this shyt.
I feel you on this. It's a lesson we haven't learned from past movements because people care more about their careers and the spotlight more than they do the actual work. New age work in the community needs to be underground and away from social media.
 

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