Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?
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Kooley_High
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It very apparent that the lack of leadership was the biggest weakness of BLM. 6-7years of nothing. No legislation, no policy, not even a simple charity program. We had the whole world marching for us only for it to be subverted by anarchists and class reductionists. Yanking down Ulysses S. Grant statue proved that this is no longer about black issues. Just class and the right symbolism. This movement has died and morphed into occupy wallstreet pt.2
loyola llothta
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Its no leadership issue. We need to stop say it is
BLM was frauds since day one. They came to Ferguson and co opted those black people movement in that area
loyola llothta
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The issue is not a "lack of leadership." While several national figureheads pushing the agenda across the board would definitely help to publicize and keep the messaging consistent - that is not the issue.
There has been plenty of legislation - opened federal and state investigations - the inclusion of "liberal" piecemeal policies on local and state levels has been helpful.
What exactly did you expect the movement and the organization associated with it to do? The issue with criticising the movement and organization is that those who are doing the criticism don't have an inkling of what is "necessary" so they wax poetic. The movements were not "subverted" by anarchists and class reductionists. You'd have to be an avid subscriber to Fox News and Breitbart to believe that load of pure, uncut bullshyt.
The movement was a series of uprisings concerning systemic anti-Black racism. There is no straightforward path to ending that. Especially not with moderate politicians too scared to do anything - and right-wing politicians mobilizing to stop any progress.
The movement is composed of Black people nationwide - and right now the push is for the abolition of the police, prisons, and the redirecting of funds into the social services vital to the communities that are being overpoliced. I know full well you, just like virtually everybody else, would have claimed that was lunacy 2 years ago - yet it is gaining massive traction and budget cuts are already being instituted.
This is just untrue. Openly a lie. Ferguson wasn't even the largest of the uprisings at that time - but I've been seeing more and more people use it to try and attack Black Lives Matter.
Check out "From #BlackLivesMatter to Black Liberation" by. Keeanga Yahmatta-Taylor.
Kooley_High
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Lack of leadership is a main issue dude. BLM doesn't even know how to define itself, one week its advocating for LGBT, then women, anticapitalism, POC, Black and Brown, BIPOC(where did this term even come from?) and then Black people. The phrase "Black Lives Matter" already encompasses women and LGBT, there doesn't need to be further division as it takes away from the main focus. Theyre also so obsessed with "allies" that no ground rules are gone over with them and they tend to tag it up with their own shyt. Allies are suppose to be there for support because they believe what's happening is truly wrong, not to plug their issues or ideals into our movement. Not only that, like I said before BLM has been around for 7 years with no significant goals accomplished. No pictures of events, no breakdown of their funds, no viewable organizational board, and they only started "verifying" chapters the last month or so which still hasn't stopped randoms from making their own marches. The BLM movement is always going to be tied to the BLM org, there no way to separate the two unless BLM org renames itself. Colin Kaepericks org has done way more in less time and has the proof to show it. Look at his site and BLM, you can see the difference clear as day
The movement is suppose to have clear concise goals and a path to get there through legislation lobbying etc. "Defund the Police" was a random phrase that somehow globbed together a shaky platform that I doubt most cities will support in its current state despite you saying so. What social programs will the funds go to? Do new social programs need to be made? Will the funding be yearly? How will we measure the results to make sure it's working? I have not seen these questions answered by the Defund platform. There needs to be radical criminal justice reform but BLM wants everything tied to the police which is frustrating. Plenty of things can be its own separate issue. You have to be strategic with voters.
You are right, there is not a straight forward path to end systemic racism, but we can push for legislation for our best interest like everyone else does. BLM doesn't seem to know how to do that.
You're looking at media representations and mistaking them for BLM -specific statements.
Check the national-website - it is an organization for the rights of "all" Black people - and that includes Black women, Black LGBT people, and poor Black people.
You can't run a proper rights organization without being anti-capitalist. And too many chauvinists have tried to make the organization about Black men only - you can see it right here on this site - knee-jerk reactions of anyone supports Black LGBT people, or Black women.
Allyship is a necessity - we're a small group in the US. Do you think Israel is empowered just by Jewish people - or is its Evangelical Christian allyship the bulk of the funding?
Again, literally just check out the site.
Police abolition and prison abolition have been a part of the movement for years - they just reached mainstream support at the same time. And I'm not here to cry and "doubt" my nikka - I'm here to work until the change actually comes. And this is a movement, and an organization - its not an electoral body - "voters" are not the main focus.
Kooley_High
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1. BLM has no spokesperson so what is a BLM specific statement? If anybody can speak for them it doesn't matter what the website says
2. Ive already said the phrase "Black Lives Matter" doesn't need any editing but it is BLM supporters who are changing the narrative continuously.
3. Your comment on running a rights org only through anticapitalist means is just an opinion, and is not my main focus.
4. I have not seen people center the movement around Black men more than it being centered around women and LGBT. Just go through this thread all the way back to 2015.
5. I never said allyship is bad. Allies who don't know their bounds are. This should be a Black movement for Black communities period. "POC" should not get any benefits from our suffering nor try to put their community issues in the protests. They are doing both.
6. My issue is not with police reform but how BLM supporters wants to focus on it and not anything else. The well being of our communities shouldn't be tied to "Defunding the Police" only.
7 BLM is trying to be a movement and organization but its just causing mass confusion. Again the BLM org should change its name.
8. Voters are the ones who put laws in place. You should want voters for any legislation on reform, that's common sense
Its obviously you're for BLM, good for you. Go out and do you mayne mayne. I'll take other avenues.
This interview will let you know all you need to know. These three lesbians are only the cofounders, but the puppet master is a transgender man, Malachi Larrabee-Garza who is the "husband" of Alicia Garza.
Black Lives Matter cofounder Alicia Garza and partner, community justice activist Malachi Larrabee-Garza speak at the 2016 YBCA 100 Summit.
We have been duped.
Black Lives Matter cofounder Alicia Garza and partner, community justice activist Malachi Larrabee-Garza speak at the 2016 YBCA 100 Summit.
We have been duped.
Elle Hearns (born 1986/1987) is an American transgender rights activist. She co-founded the Black Lives Matter Global Network, where she served as a strategic partner and organizing coordinator, and founded The Marsha P. Johnson Institute, where she serves as executive director.[1][2][3]
Elle Hearns - Wikipedia
We've been duped internationally. Intentionally.
Elle Hearns - Wikipedia
We've been duped internationally. Intentionally.
The rabbit hole goes deeper,
“In 2000,Booth became founding director of the NAACP National Voter Fund. Nearly forty years after Freedom Summer, she was once again working to register thousands of new African-American voters and increase voter turnout, advocating for an inclusive voting process in which all voices are heard and all votes count.”
“Booth traces her deep commitment to social justice to her Jewish values. She particularly cites a trip to Yad Vashem, the Israel Holocaust Museum, as transforming her into an activist, determined to work for justice. She was a founder of Amos: The National Jewish Partnership for Social Justice and is a member of the Selah social justice leadership program.”
”Heather Booth’s lifetime of activism as an organizer has served countless disenfranchised Americans. Her investment in the Jewish idea of tikkun olam, or repairing the world, has proved to be a lifelong commitment to making real, lasting change in society. As Heather says, “If we organize, we can change the world.”
Organizers | Jewish Women's Archive
"Heather Booth helped transform the American political landscape from her early involvement in both civil rights and abortion rights through her campaign for marriage equality. Heather Booth began participating in the civil rights movement with sit-ins and travelling to Mississippi for Freedom Summer. On her return, she began the first women’s movement organization on a school campus and spearheaded JANE, an abortion counseling service, risking criminal charges in the days before Roe v. Wade. She went on to direct a number of vital national organizations and campaigns, and founded the Midwest Academy to train leaders of social change organizations. As executive director of the NAACP National Voter Fund, she helped increase African American turnout in the 2000 election by two million voters. She has consulted for projects ranging from preserving social security and Medicare to immigration to regulating the finance industry, and was the national coordinator for efforts around the country supporting marriage equality."
Heather Booth | Jewish Women's Archive
"After her impassioned plea that black lives matter ignited the internet, Alicia Garza helped lead the movement that has transformed the modern struggle for civil rights. Born Alicia Schwartz, Garza studied anthropology at UC San Diego and was an early activist for causes including LGBT rights, civil rights, and fair housing. Garza became executive director of POWER, a San Francisco-based labor group, in 2009."
Alicia Garza | Jewish Women's Archive
“In 2000,Booth became founding director of the NAACP National Voter Fund. Nearly forty years after Freedom Summer, she was once again working to register thousands of new African-American voters and increase voter turnout, advocating for an inclusive voting process in which all voices are heard and all votes count.”
“Booth traces her deep commitment to social justice to her Jewish values. She particularly cites a trip to Yad Vashem, the Israel Holocaust Museum, as transforming her into an activist, determined to work for justice. She was a founder of Amos: The National Jewish Partnership for Social Justice and is a member of the Selah social justice leadership program.”
”Heather Booth’s lifetime of activism as an organizer has served countless disenfranchised Americans. Her investment in the Jewish idea of tikkun olam, or repairing the world, has proved to be a lifelong commitment to making real, lasting change in society. As Heather says, “If we organize, we can change the world.”
Organizers | Jewish Women's Archive
"Heather Booth helped transform the American political landscape from her early involvement in both civil rights and abortion rights through her campaign for marriage equality. Heather Booth began participating in the civil rights movement with sit-ins and travelling to Mississippi for Freedom Summer. On her return, she began the first women’s movement organization on a school campus and spearheaded JANE, an abortion counseling service, risking criminal charges in the days before Roe v. Wade. She went on to direct a number of vital national organizations and campaigns, and founded the Midwest Academy to train leaders of social change organizations. As executive director of the NAACP National Voter Fund, she helped increase African American turnout in the 2000 election by two million voters. She has consulted for projects ranging from preserving social security and Medicare to immigration to regulating the finance industry, and was the national coordinator for efforts around the country supporting marriage equality."
Heather Booth | Jewish Women's Archive
"After her impassioned plea that black lives matter ignited the internet, Alicia Garza helped lead the movement that has transformed the modern struggle for civil rights. Born Alicia Schwartz, Garza studied anthropology at UC San Diego and was an early activist for causes including LGBT rights, civil rights, and fair housing. Garza became executive director of POWER, a San Francisco-based labor group, in 2009."
Alicia Garza | Jewish Women's Archive
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loyola llothta
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Agent.
I checked-out Keeanga Yahmatta-Taylor, and this came up.
Gay Pride Doesn’t Mean Gay Liberation LGBTQ visibility is crucial, but it shouldn’t be confused with LGBTQ rights. By Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor June 26, 2019
Gay Pride Doesn’t Mean Gay Liberation