Is being "unattractive" holding a crop of r&b singers back from success?

[Cadillac]

IDK but this women is perfection

 

[ShaDynasty]

A lot of this shyt is like modern neo soul which even in its heyday was still really niche. If they wanted to get more people listening they'd do better channeling modern Hip Hop and EDM.

R&B in general from the 90s onwards hasn't been a really financially successful genre relative to every other genre you can name that was around in that time frame.

As others have said, Tinashe should have been a massive pop sensation easily. Her music (at least the first album) was pretty good and she looked fantastic. Everybody would smash her and she still couldn't keep her career going. I guess she's having a bit of a resurgence now? Her album was meh to my ears though.

 

[El Vato]

aint enough paper for groups. they died in r&b and hip hop, migos and rae sremmurd and i guess city girls the only folks to try to revive/keep that shyt going and even all of them venture off and do solo stuff. plus for labels it costs way more to support groups - especially women - need multiple makeup artists and hair stylists on standby, more hotel rooms, buses, wardrobes etc required. that said, r&b is suffering from a lack of groups, nothing like harmonies melting together from voices that touch different registers, having different leads on songs bring something different to each song on an album

Then is the reason why I hate the industry even if i'm a part of it. Long story. I'm trying but so much shiznet going on.

 

[El Vato]

she's good and real

 

[El Vato]

Because there are a million examples of beautiful women who had success and from whom most of their success came from their female fanbases.

Ciara
Beyoncé
Rihanna
Amerie
Keri Hilson (until she went at bey)
Mya
Jhene aiko

And so on...


Milian, like tinashe that some posters here like to points to, didn’t make music people cared about

You forgot ..Groove Theory and Dawn from En Vogue

 

[Wiles]

Neg pending for Ari slander

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

Totally forgot about that album. It was good too, 'Urban Flora' just has an outsized impression on me.

She shoulda continued working with Galamatias because her follow up album to Urban Flora was garbage.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

It also seems to be lost on many that without studio effects, a lot of them muthafukkas really can't sing like that, attractive or not.

 

[Yaddam Yussein]

This should tell you all you need to know

I swear this bytch always looks tired or high AF.

 

[Street Knowledge]

There's a balance. If a woman is TOO pretty women won't fukk with her. This is a part of why artists like Christina Milian never get poppin


Relatability

If a singer reminds them of the baddest bytch in school that everybody hated on they're not gonna wanna hear you sing about falling in love or break ups

The ones that make it remind women of their peer group in some way, while glossing the fukk up in other areas

Women loved dip it low by Milian. Idk why you would use her as an example

Beyoncé for example is hot and women love her. 99% of women can’t relate to being as attractive as she is

 

[WhoShotCha]

Jorja Smith dont photograph well. bytch bad but she be looking retreated in photos.

And Ari not ugly but she definitely average. Go to any HBCU and you see a million of those walking around

 

[Archimedes]

Never heard of the Amber Mark chick but she's fire nikka what are you talking about

what the fukk is she doing taking a pic in that dirty ass mirror.

that being said

 

[daboywonder2002]

If a singer is attractive, all fans will do is flock to your instagram. Instagram followers does not equal fanbase or album sales.

 

[NZA]

Yes. If Aretha Franklin came out today, the labels would've closed the door on her and forced her to be a back up singer at most.

no way in hell she would be backup even today, breh

 

[Will Ross]

Because there are a million examples of beautiful women who had success and from whom most of their success came from their female fanbases.

Ciara
Beyoncé
Rihanna
Amerie
Keri Hilson (until she went at bey)
Mya
Jhene aiko

And so on...


Milian, like tinashe that some posters here like to points to, didn’t make music people cared about

Beyonce and Rihanna are the only ones that had legit success on a pop level.
Every other person you listed has had mediocre success.