Investments in Education May Be Misdirected

[MeachTheMonster]

Peer tutors then.

Peer tutors aren't very helpful if all the students are behind.

 

[Mowgli]

Peer tutors aren't very helpful if all the students are behind.

Do you have a study for that information?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Do you have a study for that information?

Nope it's common sense. How can an uneducated person, educated someone else?

 

[theworldismine13]

No it's not.

Studies show that smaller classes are important. Studies show that new updated books are important. Studies show that kids with access to extracurricular activities perform better. Studies show that poor kids are most affected by a lack of resources because they need the MOST resources due to their disadvantages and home and in their community.

dude just put up the graphs that show spending is not connected to performance

 

[Mowgli]

Nope it's common sense. How can an uneducated person, educated someone else?

You sound ignorant. Peer tutors help alot of students around the nation. They're tutoring for a reason. Because they understand it like the back of their hand. Does an older sibling need a degree to help their younger sibling with their homework?

You sound like a typical internet philosopher. You think nothing will work but dont know what will.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

dude just put up the graphs that show spending is not connected to performance

Those graphs don't prove anything. They oversimplify the issue. They don't address where and how the money is spent, which is the most important part of this debate.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

That's still a money issue though. Tutors and extra specialized programs cost more than new shiny books.

Kumon and all the other Private after school tutoring classes here in California are filled to the brim with low income Indians, Vietnamese and Chinese students. Many parents work 2 jobs just to make sure their kids can stay in places like Kumon.

Again, it indicates the priorities and desires of the parents. The parents are willing to put in the extra effort to make sure their kids succeed.

And, in the areas heavily populated by Habesha Africans, they also have a strong presence in Tutoring programs and libraries.

No matter how much money you spend on students, the kids with a superior cultural upbringing are going to perform better. high Income or not.

The results from the California STAR exam pretty solidify the notion that cultural superiority helps more than income.

STAR Results for 2012 - Year 2012 (CA Dept of Education)

Asians and South East Asians ( represented by filipino) perform better than or on par with Whites regardless of economic status.

 

[theworldismine13]

Peer tutors aren't very helpful if all the students are behind.

they arent all behind, im not sure why you would think that, even in the worst schools there are always students that do well, and those students tutor the students that are slower or in lower grades

im not saying that is the solution, but im not sure why anybody would knock not the idea

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You sound ignorant. Peer tutors help alot of students around the nation. They're tutoring for a reason. Because they understand it like the back of their hand. Does an older sibling need a degree to help their younger sibling with their homework?

You sound like a typical internet philosopher. You think nothing will work but dont know what will.

I forgot who I was talking to, my bad bruh carry on

 

[MeachTheMonster]

they arent all behind, im not sure why you would think that, even in the worst schools there are always students that do well, and those students tutor the students that are slower or in lower grades

im not saying that is the solution, but im not sure why anybody would knock not the idea

Not knocking the idea. But peer tutors are not comparable to paid professionals and specialized programs. Which is what Mowgli suggested.

 

[Broke Wave]

dude just put up the graphs that show spending is not connected to performance

Oh now one study is ok for you? You are a dumb fakkit.

 

[theworldismine13]

Those graphs don't prove anything. They oversimplify the issue. They don't address where and how the money is spent, which is the most important part of this debate.

those graphs prove a lot, you're just delusional

 

[theworldismine13]

Oh now one study is ok for you? You are a dumb fakkit.

nah, i believe there are multiple studies posted in this thread and if you want i can post more

 

[theworldismine13]

Not knocking the idea. But peer tutors are not comparable to paid professionals and specialized programs. Which is what Mowgli suggested.

how do you know this?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Kumon and all the other Private after school tutoring classes here in California are filled to the brim with low income Indians, Vietnamese and Chinese students. Many parents work 2 jobs just to make sure their kids can stay in places like Kumon.

Again, it indicates the priorities and desires of the parents. The parents are willing to put in the extra effort to make sure their kids succeed.

And, in the areas heavily populated by Habesha Africans, they also have a strong presence in Tutoring programs and libraries.

No matter how much money you spend on students, the kids with a superior cultural upbringing are going to perform better. high Income or not.

The results from the California STAR exam pretty solidify the notion that cultural superiority helps more than income.

STAR Results for 2012 - Year 2012 (CA Dept of Education)

Asians and South East Asians ( represented by filipino) perform better than or on par with Whites regardless of economic status.

Not sure what your reading. But your study says there is an achivement gap for low-income students.