Interesting US Communist Party Poster from 1932

[aXiom]

I'm not gonna jump out there and pretend as if Capitalism is the end all be all answer, but there's a reason why the most successful and richest country on earth isn't a communist country.

This is amazing!

 

[African Peasant]

Data collected by your own government refutes your claims.

The irony of this quote although he, above, attempts to lecture us on the history of the Soviet Union despite being an American jingoist

Don't waste your time with that shill. He's in the same group with Napoleon, cosplaying as black

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

more from that sub

The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) is a South African Marxist–Leninist and pan-Africanist political party.

 

[Everythingg]

@BobbyWojak Yes “private owners” refers to businesses (that anyone can start) AND individuals. So again are we better off with the govt controlling the economy or private citizens and the businesses they start?

Looking at how the rich rigged capitalism in their favor and making that the definition of capitalism is like looking at the WWE and sayinf because that’s scripted wrestling that wrestling everywhere is scripted and bad. It’s lazy

 

[Low End Derrick]

Coli contrarians really twerking for communism?

Maybe this place really has been infiltrated by the Chinese…

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I'm not gonna jump out there and pretend as if Capitalism is the end all be all answer, but there's a reason why the most successful and richest country on earth isn't a communist country.

Forced regime changes of democratically elected officials which opened up a power vacuum that allowed dictators and authoritarians seize control.

Cutting off/limiting trade.

Also, we have checks and balances in our government so no one branch has all of the power (even though conservatives are trying to change that)

 

[BobbyWojak]

@BobbyWojak Yes “private owners” refers to businesses (that anyone can start) AND individuals. So again are we better off with the govt controlling the economy or private citizens and the businesses they start?

Looking at how the rich rigged capitalism in their favor and making that the definition of capitalism is like looking at the WWE and sayinf because that’s scripted wrestling that wrestling everywhere is scripted and bad. It’s lazy

I was pointing out your bias, I could easily say 'the government' refers to the workers and democratically elected party members under communism.

 

[Everythingg]

Well, right now you live in a “market democracy” in which the billionaire class can buy elections via advertisements, voter outreach, fund political campaigns data collection etc. Essentially pitting the working class against a small elite that controls most of the wealth in your country. The billionaires class, their lobby groups and corporate stooges who they elect to Congress get to control the agenda to your detriment.

Public healthcare, paid maternity leave, public pharmacare, mass public transit - all are things that would improve your quality of life are against their interest!

Billionaire are not just “citizens”. Since your Republican-dominated Supreme Court approved Citizens United, American democracy is an auction to the highest bidder.

Yup agree with everything until you get into the left right dynamic. It’s two wings on the same bird playing good cop/bad cop. Both sides have the same goal but different ways of going about it. But you said it. The real problem is that lobbying gives an advantage to the ultra rich. And that’s the way they rig capitalism. Capitalism in itself is the best economic system because it leaves the power in the hands of the people instead of govts that always end up corrupted…

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Yup agree with everything until you get into the left right dynamic. It’s two wings on the same bird playing good cop/bad cop. Both sides have the same goal but different ways of going about it. But you said it. The real problem is that lobbying gives an advantage to the ultra rich. And that’s the way they rig capitalism. Capitalism in itself is the best economic system because it leaves the power in the hands of the people instead of govts that always end up corrupted…

Capitalism lends itself to concentrated economic forces, which itself creates oligopolies or arranges state capture as you see in the US. It’s not a bug of capitalism but rather an essential feature. You can’t ensure market share without state capture and subversion of proletariat (worker) interests.

Ex. The United States Congress

So no. Capitalism is not the best.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I was pointing out your bias, I could easily say 'the government' refers to the workers and democratically elected party members under communism.

A soviet (worker’s council)

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

The difference being you aren’t executed for speaking on it

Capitalism thrives on incarceration.

 

[Everythingg]

I was pointing out your bias, I could easily say 'the government' refers to the workers and democratically elected party members under communism.

I don’t even know what argument you’re tryna make

We have the bill of rights and constitution to protect us from the govt becoming too powerful. Giving them control of the economy is them having too much power now matter how you define “govt”

Capitalism lends itself to concentrated economic forces, which itself creates oligopolies or arranges state capture as you see in the US. It’s not a bug of capitalism but rather an essential feature. You can’t ensure market share without state capture and subversion of proletariat (worker) interests.

Ex. The United States Congress

So no. Capitalism is not the best.

There’s downfalls to every economic system because there are always power hungry greedy humans searching for ways to take advantage of others. But capitalism is the best since it’s as simple as a man with land being able to go plant crops on his land and head to the market to sell them for profit. That’s better than giving that control to a “govt” of elected officials.

People back in the day elected a president that gave the power of the money supply to a private entity called the federal reserve that cannot be regulated or audited. The people handed the power to the govt who handed power over to a private entity. But that’s the govt that communism says will control the economy?

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Capitalism thrives on incarceration.

And I don’t agree with that breh

 

[BobbyWojak]

I don’t even know what argument you’re tryna make

We have the bill of rights and constitution to protect us from the govt becoming too powerful. Giving them control of the economy is them having too much power now matter how you define “govt”

You have a simplistic view of communist governments. They have constitutions and judicial systems that moderate political parties and businesses, they just work with a humanist philosophy.

But capitalism is the best since it’s as simple as a man with land being able to go plant crops on his land and head to the market to sell them for profit.

Are you under the impression that you can't do this in a communist country?

 

[Problematic Pat]

They ain’t did shyt worth a damn they have a track record of someone of the worst environmental negligence, erosion of civil rights, genocide and not to mention invading other countries and plundering their resources

Communism belongs in the goddamn dustbin next to fascism

Just say you're stupid and go