Interesting US Communist Party Poster from 1932

[BobbyWojak]

 

[Everythingg]

You have a simplistic view of communist governments. They have constitutions and judicial systems that moderate political parties and businesses, they just work with a humanist philosophy.

We have those constitutions and judicial systems now and things are still corrupt. How is giving them even more power going to be better for everyone?

Are you under the impression that you can't do this in a communist country?

There’s a limit to what you can do with a property someone else (the govt in the case of communism) owns.

 

[JackRoss]

Nigeria is a territorial expression with the sole purpose of extracting oil and natural gas for Western empires. Trying to pin the workings of labour/resource exploitation or imperialism on a socialist pan African like myself is a silly endeavour

Your attempt to derail the thread is failing.

No derail. Sounds like you have bigger issues to deal with.

 

[the cac mamba]

You don't know history, you're wrong breh. You literally can't name a communist country or revolutionary movement that was not sabotaged in some way by capitalist nations.

this is fukkin bullshyt

ill give you that america fukked with cuba, vietnam, korea, etc. but china and the soviet union didnt need any help from america to prove communism a massive failure

the problem with communism is that there's always a top 1 percent, but at least capitalism is honest about it

 

[Afro]

Cuba has a vastly superior medical system, educational system, housing system, and incarceration system. They have better maternal mortality, infant mortality, lower homelessness, less incarcerated, lower violent crime, lower gun crime, and a vastly smaller environmental impact than their equivalent American territory.

No communist country can have a worst record on environmental negligence, civil rights, or genocide than capitalist countries considering the present global warming issues are a product of the capitalist mode of production, virtually every genocide of the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries was at the behest of capital.

Chattel slavery is inherent in the capitalist mode of production - apartheid has been at the behest of capital, every notable African and South American leader who held the interests of his people above capital was assassinated by Western capitalist countries.

You're out of your depth here young man.

For all the "We hate Cacs" rethoric thrown around here, you would think people would be more open to hearing about how other countries do things despite constant interference from European nations.

That indoctrination is powerful.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

For all the "We hate Cacs" rethoric thrown around here, you would think people would be more open to hearing about how other countries do thing despite constant interference from European nations.

That indoctrination is powerful.

Digital blackface
psy-ops
Desire to be the equivalent of the white man in the black community

 

[OneManGang]

This is a great thread. I’m enjoying listening to both arguments.

Here’s a question though, I rarely see it mentioned fully in plain language.

(American) Capitalism CANNOT work without an underclass. From slaves, to dirt cheap eastern labor and everything in between…there always has to be a loser. A huge part of our foreign policy ensures there’s always a loser. Satan couldn’t have come up with that though right?

As more countries globalize and hold their own nuts, you’ll see the cracks appear even more. The world is running out of people to exploit.

 

[Mowgli]

These rich liberal college kids and weed head revolutionaries. Love them some commies

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

For all the "We hate Cacs" rethoric thrown around here, you would think people would be more open to hearing about how other countries do thing despite constant interference from European nations.

That indoctrination is powerful.

Well that’s it.

All the anti cac rhetoric is fake.

I think that’s what @priority is getting at with his PAWG threads. The ideological fortitude to reject white supremacy is weak on the Coli despite the bombast.

 

[EndDomination]

communists didn’t really care about black people and our grievances. they weren’t as chauvinistically racist as the american public during that period, making sympathetic overtures of understanding that endeared them to a desperate black community. at the end of the day, though, communists viewed the divisions in this country through the lens of class warfare, ultimately ignoring entreaties to address systemic racism by those black people who joined their party.

"Communists"

Extremely terrible history and terrible even today but there's a reason folks are invading our borders to get to America so much to the point where we have to have political debates about building walls to keep them out. Russia and China don't have those problems because ain't nobody trying to go there.

Folks see the US (a capitalist country) as the land of opportunity because anybody can potentially be successful here.

In Russia, and other commie nations, the only way you're getting wealthy is if the folks in charge handpick you and even then, if they feel they don't like you no more, they coming and yanking out your bed at night and disappearing you and taking your money like they did to the billionaire in China.

Of course the US has issues. All countries do. But this capitalist nation stands heads and shoulders over the most popular communist nations.

Russia is not communist. It is a far-right crony capitalist state.

The massive issues with Russia were exacerbated by the end of communism - capitalism literally mass increased maternal and infant mortality, homelessness, drug and alcohol abuse, sex trafficking and prostitution, early death, corruption and theft, and violence along every measure.

 

[EndDomination]

These rich liberal college kids and weed head revolutionaries. Love them some commies

This is always a pretty funny viewpoint considering “rich liberal college kids” are liberals - not socialist, communist or anarchist.

Which is why the college democrats are vastly larger than local DSA, PSL, or CPUSA college chapters.

It’s a stupid viewpoint from people who are so far divorced from any meaningful relationship with political actors or activists that they rely on third hand accounts from conservative media. Like you.

 

[Will Ross]

this is fukkin bullshyt

ill give you that america fukked with cuba, vietnam, korea, etc. but china and the soviet union didnt need any help from america to prove communism a massive failure

the problem with communism is that there's always a top 1 percent, but at least capitalism is honest about it

communism failed plain and simple the fact we having debates about its silly.

 

[EndDomination]

I didn't give a deep account of the USSR. I merely said what everyone knows: It was a purely communist society - and it FAILED. Literally.

Data collected by the US government would actually prove my point as they are forecasting the Black dollar to become weaker.

Why?

Because at moments in our past, our community was economically stronger than it is now. Why? Due to more Black ownership at that time.

You're proving my point... but I don't think you're intelligent enough to know that.

You’re out of your depth here lol.

 

[Luke Cage]

Why does the coli always have to be so nonconformist about everything?

Not everything they taught us to see as bad or ineffective, in school was a lie.

 

[EndDomination]

Coli contrarians really twerking for communism?

Maybe this place really has been infiltrated by the Chinese…

Middle aged Coli breh who thinks he’s more knowledgeable or refined than Kwame Ture, Bobby Seale, Huey Newton, WEB Du Bois, Angela Davis, Mumia Abu Jamal, Frank B. Wilderson III, Keeanga Yahmatta Taylor, Fred Hampton, etc.