Indians A Rising Force In California Politics

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They are the wealthiest immigrant group, I believe, and Hindus specifically are the highest earners of any religious group per capita, so this isn't too surprising. I'm sure Dems and Repubs are fighting over them, too, for that reason.

This is one of the arguments against atheists who maintain that religious beliefs compromise intelligence. These are people who believe in elephants and talking monkeys who also happen to hold phd's in physics.
 

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This is one of the arguments against atheists who maintain that religious beliefs compromise intelligence. These are people who believe in elephants and talking monkeys who also happen to hold phd's in physics.

I thought the central point in Hinduism is essentially that there is no "gods" or "god".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

Don't get me wrong, I still think that shyt is silly but from what I remember reading (prior to the wiki article above) is that there really is no god or gods, just mythical representations. I could be getting mixed up with something else though.
 

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I thought the central point in Hinduism is essentially that there is no "gods" or "god".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

Don't get me wrong, I still think that shyt is silly but from what I remember reading (prior to the wiki article above) is that there really is no god or gods, just mythical representations. I could be getting mixed up with something else though.
Yea, there are some schools that view the gods as 'aspects' of nature/the universe. It really varies family by family, branch of hinduism by branch.
 

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They're also converts, which signals they have accepted that [White/Western] Christianity is superior to their indigenous beliefs. Important not to overlook that.
They don't even care about that shyt :laugh: they just wanna be successful at any cost so they'll change their names, stay out of the sun, adopt Christianity....

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You might think that because of the stereotypes, but it's not exactly true:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/income_and_religion_jews_and_hindus_richest_/


I wasn't aware Hindu's were doing that well, but the article doesn't discredit what I said.

46% of Jews earn over 100k where 43% Hindus earn over 100k.
75% of Jews earn over 50k where 80% of Jews earn over 50k.

One could easily be fooled into thinking they are on the same economic plane, but if you were to raise that 100k to say 1mil, you'd see right away no ethnic/religious comes close to Jews in income earned. I did a quick google search and I was mind boggled by number major corporations owned/run by Jews;

Google
Oracle Corporation
Dell, Inc.
Miramax
Warner Brothers
Dreamworks SKG
Comcast
CBS
MGM
Universal Studios
ABC
20th Century Fox
Columbia Pictures
MTV and Nickelodeon (Viacom)

Facebook
eBay
Sun Microsystems
PayPal (before being bought by eBay)
Cisco Systems
Mirabilis and ICQ
Dunkin' Donuts
Baskin Robbins
Toys R Us
Mattel
Wynn Hotels
Levi's

DKNY
Calvin Klein
Home Depot,
Kenneth Cole
DeBeers

Goldman Sachs
Morgan Stanley
H&R Block
Charles Schwab Corp.
Progressive Insurance
Loews Corporation

Another random fact: Every chairman of the US Federal Reserve since 1979 was Jewish. Just this year the first female chairman for the Reserve Bank has been confirmed by the Senate, and she just happens to be Jewish. No ethnic group comes remotely close to Jewish political and economic power, and certainly not Hindus. There's been a Gallup study that verified this, do a search and you'll find many evidence.

edit: btw i'm not hating on jews. i'm just stating what is true.
 

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I wasn't aware Hindu's were doing that well, but the article doesn't discredit what I said.

46% of Jews earn over 100k where 43% Hindus earn over 100k.
75% of Jews earn over 50k where 80% of Jews earn over 50k.

One could easily be fooled into thinking they are on the same economic plane, but if you were to raise that 100k to say 1mil, you'd see right away no ethnic/religious comes close to Jews in income earned. I did a quick google search and I was mind boggled by number major corporations owned/run by Jews;

Google
Oracle Corporation
Dell, Inc.
Miramax
Warner Brothers
Dreamworks SKG
Comcast
CBS
MGM
Universal Studios
ABC
20th Century Fox
Columbia Pictures
MTV and Nickelodeon (Viacom)

Facebook
eBay
Sun Microsystems
PayPal (before being bought by eBay)
Cisco Systems
Mirabilis and ICQ
Dunkin' Donuts
Baskin Robbins
Toys R Us
Mattel
Wynn Hotels
Levi's

DKNY
Calvin Klein
Home Depot,
Kenneth Cole
DeBeers

Goldman Sachs
Morgan Stanley
H&R Block
Charles Schwab Corp.
Progressive Insurance
Loews Corporation

Another random fact: Every chairman of the US Federal Reserve since 1979 was Jewish. Just this year the first female chairman for the Reserve Bank has been confirmed by the Senate, and she just happens to be Jewish. No ethnic group comes remotely close to Jewish political and economic power, and certainly not Hindus. There's been a Gallup study that verified this, do a search and you'll find many evidence.

edit: btw i'm not hating on jews. i'm just stating what is true.


Don't even know why The Real is arguing with you over this.
 

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I thought the central point in Hinduism is essentially that there is no "gods" or "god".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

Don't get me wrong, I still think that shyt is silly but from what I remember reading (prior to the wiki article above) is that there really is no god or gods, just mythical representations. I could be getting mixed up with something else though.

There are few philosophies within hinduism that can be considered atheistic but they are in the minority. My point is that the same guy who is offering coconuts to Ganesha in a temple could very well be a theoretical physicist. The priest who handled my cousins wedding is also a neurosurgeon. This kind of thing is fairly common.
 

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I wasn't aware Hindu's were doing that well, but the article doesn't discredit what I said.

46% of Jews earn over 100k where 43% Hindus earn over 100k.
75% of Jews earn over 50k where 80% of Jews earn over 50k.

One could easily be fooled into thinking they are on the same economic plane, but if you were to raise that 100k to say 1mil, you'd see right away no ethnic/religious comes close to Jews in income earned. I did a quick google search and I was mind boggled by number major corporations owned/run by Jews;

Google
Oracle Corporation
Dell, Inc.
Miramax
Warner Brothers
Dreamworks SKG
Comcast
CBS
MGM
Universal Studios
ABC
20th Century Fox
Columbia Pictures
MTV and Nickelodeon (Viacom)

Facebook
eBay
Sun Microsystems
PayPal (before being bought by eBay)
Cisco Systems
Mirabilis and ICQ
Dunkin' Donuts
Baskin Robbins
Toys R Us
Mattel
Wynn Hotels
Levi's

DKNY
Calvin Klein
Home Depot,
Kenneth Cole
DeBeers

Goldman Sachs
Morgan Stanley
H&R Block
Charles Schwab Corp.
Progressive Insurance
Loews Corporation

Another random fact: Every chairman of the US Federal Reserve since 1979 was Jewish. Just this year the first female chairman for the Reserve Bank has been confirmed by the Senate, and she just happens to be Jewish. No ethnic group comes remotely close to Jewish political and economic power, and certainly not Hindus. There's been a Gallup study that verified this, do a search and you'll find many evidence.

edit: btw i'm not hating on jews. i'm just stating what is true.

If you're talking political power and representation, then obviously I'm not going to argue with that. But wealth and political power aren't reducible to one another, and that's why I'm stressing this point about Hindus/Indians. The myth that Jews have economic dominance that is unreachable or far beyond any other group needs to be destroyed so that people can actually understand how political/representational/media and economic power historically accumulate, and how they are not the same.

The link I posted says that Jews have a slight edge over Hindus in the top brackets, but that Hindus have a slight edge over Jews in the lower ones. Hence the conclusion that " one can argue that Hindus are actually more prosperous than Jews, since a far smaller percentage are in the very low brackets." The wealth of a community isn't reflected solely by measuring its most successful members, so even having all these visible CEOs doesn't guarantee economic dominance (though I should ask, are all the Jews running the companies you posted American Jews?) I Googled Indian CEOs and found that MasterCard, CitiGroup, Pepsi Co, Motorola, and several other big names are run by Indians. I also found this:

"The data suggest Indians are scaling corporate heights. In a study of S&P 500 companies, Egon Zehnder found more Indian CEOs than any other nationality except American."

Read more: India May Be the Ideal CEO Training Ground - TIME http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2084441,00.html#ixzz2rc3DCAwX

Jews would obviously be included in the "American" category, as would Indian Americans, but since most of the Indians in the US come from that same, elite tier that produces the Indian CEOs, the disparity might not be as big as you think.

Also, if you scale up, as you suggested, to look at the ethnic breakdown of the Forbes 400, which is restricted to the US, you'll find that while Jews do outnumber Indians on the list, non-Jewish whites, specifically those from Northwest Europe that make up the average white American stock mix, outnumber Jews by a ton.
 
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If you're talking political power and representation, then obviously I'm not going to argue with that. But wealth and political power aren't reducible to one another,

No, they are very reducible to one another. Power = Money, everyone knows that. Also, how do you think Jews have attained such prominence in politics in the first place, because Gentiles are just fond of Jews running their country? No, its because they've bought that political power, like its always been.

The link I posted says that Jews have a slight edge over Hindus in the top brackets, but that Hindus have a slight edge over Jews in the lower ones. Hence the conclusion that " one can argue that Hindus are actually more prosperous than Jews, since a far smaller percentage are in the very low brackets."

Dude, listen, the link you provided had a cap of 100k. 100k as a sample is just laughable. I already told you, the higher you lift that number the more those percentages diverge. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say, top 2% of Jewish wealth >> All Hindus Combined.

The wealth of a community isn't reflected solely by measuring its most successful members, so even having all these visible CEOs doesn't guarantee economic dominance (though I should ask, are all the Jews running the companies you posted American Jews?) I Googled Indian CEOs and found that MasterCard, CitiGroup, Pepsi Co, Motorola, and several other big names are run by Indians. I also found this:

There are about 3 mil Indians in the US, you better believe a few of them would be CEOs. And I don't mean to discredit Indian entrepreneurship, but it is common knowledge many of these multinationals have hired Indian CEOs for the sole reason of expanding in Indian/Asian markets, where patronage and connections are usually the only means of getting into those markets.

Also, if you scale up, as you suggested, to look at the ethnic breakdown of the Forbes 400, which is restricted to the US, you'll find that while Jews do outnumber Indians on the list, non-Jewish whites, specifically those from Northwest Europe that make up the average white American stock mix, outnumber Jews by a ton.

You didn't expect that? Jews make up less than .2% of population, it would be travesty if didn't whites heavily outnumber them that Forbes list.
 
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No, they are very reducible to one another. Power = Money, everyone knows that. Also, how do you think Jews have attained such prominence in politics in the first place, because Gentiles are just fond of Jews running their country? No, its because they've bought that political power, like its always been.

No, they aren't reducible to one another. This is a major myth in the study of power. I don't think Jews have attained such prominence in politics, beyond AIPAC. They have attained prominence in media and business.

Dude, listen, the link you provided had a cap of 100k. 100k as a sample is just laughable. I already told you, the higher you lift that number the more those percentages diverge. I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say, top 2% of Jewish wealth >> All Hindus Combined.

Do you have stats for that?

There are about 3 mil Indians in the US, you better believe a few of them would be CEOs. And I don't mean to discredit Indian entrepreneurship, but it is common knowledge many of these multinationals have hired Indian CEOs for the sole reason of expanding in Indian/Asian markets, where patronage and connections are usually the only means of getting into those markets.

Do you have a citation for this? And what would it matter how they were hired? Their power or money as a CEO is the same regardless of how they got there.

You didn't expect that? Jews make up less than .2% of population, it would be travesty if didn't whites heavily outnumber them that Forbes list.

I did expect that. But you said that "no ethnic group comes remotely close to Jewish political and economic power," which I am arguing against on numerous fronts. And it's not "whites" in general, it's WASPS who outdo them, not Italians or Russians or Scandinavians or what have you.

Also, Jews make up 2.2, not .2% of the population, while Indians only make up 1.0%, so Jews outnumber Indians over 2:1, something that should be kept in mind when discussing their relative power or wealth as groups.
 
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